The Jacob Mellis two footed flying foul

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Agree it wasn't 2 footed but he lunged in, wasn't in control.

 

He got the ball. You can see it there. Since when has a one footed tackle when you take the ball and not touch the man been a sending off offence? It's the first I've ever heard of it.

 

I thought so at the time and the replays and that picture just confirm it. We should appeal the sending off. He sent him off for his perceived attitude not the actual tackle which was probably the finest one of Mellis' career!

 

I was sat in the bottom left hand corner right in front of the tackle and when he made the challenge I said ''he's off'' straight away. After seeing the challenge on TV slowed down I think it maybe could have only warranted a yellow. However I have no arguments with the red as it looked a definite red card in live play IMO. It made it worse that Jacob clearly flew into the challenge in anger rather than in an attempt to win the ball.

 

What about the number Ramage did to one of theres early on? Crunching tackle. Left the piggy crying on the floor 10 minutes. Ref deemed it fair play. Was much more aggressive than Mellis' challenge.

 

Clutching at straws
Frimpong deserved his red
Mellis deserved his red
Mellis fall in box wasn't a pen.

 

You can't fly into tackles like that these days, the still shot isn't enough to go on. In fact looking at a single still shot of a tackle is useless tbh. There was some contact made by the entire tackle rather than just the split second that contact is made with the ball. It was a silly tackle rather than dangerous and maybe a yellow could have been shown but I have seen people sent off for less and stay on for worse tbh.

 

No straws to clutch at I thought we deserved to lose. the game. Mellis on the otter hand won the ball in a hard challenge.

 

Agree with all but the pen JT. IMO Llera's foot catches Mellis's which prevents him bringing it through hence why he fell. Should have been a pen.

 

Not clutching at any straws. I understand why the ref sent him off. It looked like a red card on first viewing and that's all the ref had. What I can't understand is why people still believe it's a red card after seeing the other angle in the replay. Mellis won the ball, he didn't touch the man and he tackled with one foot. I've been looking through the laws of the game today and I can't find one that states that is even a foul, never mind a red card. It's not a red card these days like it never was. Jump in with two feet and it is, whether you get the ball or not. Tackle with one and it isn't. It was a robust fair challenge. The only player who broke the laws of the game during that passage of play was the Wednesday defender who feigned injury.

 

Somebody who agrees with me. Thank chuff. I thought I was going mad.

Watch the Fritzl player in the slo mo replays. He waits and waits (had ages to get shut etc). He watches for Mellis, and then sticks his own boot in before play acting.

There was no contact. Mellis won the ball using one foot. Yes he steamed in, yes I understand the ref dismissing him based on only seeing it in real time. But the wallies on Owlstalk are claiming it's a two footed lunge, that it's a 'horror' tackle. I should be ashamed apparently for suggesting otherwise.

When I was growing up, and playing football myself through my teens, that would have been classed as a right tackle.

And as Athersley Red pointed out, Ramage went in even more robust on the same player first half.

Football is more ****** with every passing week. I yearn for the old days. I'm only 31 ffs.

 

I see your point, Jay. It was nowhere near as dangerous as JJ's on Brek, as it happened. But Jacob flew in at a ridiculous speed on a very wet pitch, out of control and he may well have broken that fella's leg. Luckily he didn't. Is one red card more worthy than the other? No, there can occur a worse offence, but given the unstable mentality of the referee in question, I would say it was in keeping. I do question Mariner's pettiness over less serious fouls, that continually interupted the flow of the game. Mariner will have to answer for his governance of the game with the FA.

I'm more concerned about the abusive questioning from supporters, regarding his commitment to the team as well as his own game. "He's not bothered", "heart like a pea," and other such nonsense, levelled at a professional plying his trade at a club and in a position that maybe, he didn't see himself being at.
How can that not affect an individual? Brush it off and concentrate on your own game and career yes, if you can. Then, in the heat of a local derby, wallop. Players like Steve Dawson, Frimpong, even Bobby expect to receive their share of cards as they go about their game. Mellis, as a traditional ball player, isn't really ready, nor should he be, to calculate whether that aggression and risk is ultimately worth engaging with, for the best interests of your team and of course, getting the result.

I would suggest that those who labelled him 'heartless', which I believe has affected him and influenced his game, might look at their own part in the incident that led to Mellis's sending off. And looking at the board, it's the same characters slagging him in both circumstances.

 

Just trying to cover up there own and only horror tackle up of the match that from Johnson on Shea. That one was shocking. Seemed knee high

 

Just like the girls on Facebook, it all depends on the angle.

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That looks like Jacob tackling with one foot and getting the ball, pictured from the side as opposed to the front like I posted earlier. What are you seeing that I'm not?

 

That angle proves Mellis wins the ball as well.

You know why? Because he did.

And why? Because in the close-up, slo-mo replay it's clear as day.

However, look at the refs view there... and remember, he sees it once, at full tilt. Red card. Can't argue with him making that decision. But I can, have and will continue to defend Mellis when folk tell me it was a horror tackle etc. It really wasn't. It was a fantastic tackle.

 

My point was basically that yes, he won the ball, but when you look where the ref is, you see him off the ground (top pic) you can understand why it was given as a red. He was completely off the floor when he went in, but not when he made contact.

It's only a one-game ban, so chances are we won't appeal anyway.

 

No he won't, nothing will be done about this at all. Apart from the red card for Johnson, he's the most one-sided ref I've ever seen, and we've had ;pads over the years. Absolute shameful performance but nothing will be done about it - we have to move on somehow, but it's an injustice of the highest magnitude.

And YES it was a Pen.