The morning after the night before

I was beyond frustrated yesterday to the point of pure apathy. Could not be arsed & seemingly many others feel similar. Sad state of affairs.

However, this has been coming for the last 4 years ever since Robins was replaced & a new strategy set in place. One that was set by the board at the time.

That strategy requires time. It requires time because all areas of the club have to get it right from academy to coaching to commercial to recruitment to management. When you set such a strategy, you have to be willing to accept the risks which are relegation, poor performances & situations that we're in today.

However, the problem has mainly been that whenever we see ourselves in these situations the Board pull the trigger (well, this wasn't the situation with Wilson but anyway...).

It's really difficult to defend Johnson IMHO. The performances of which he is judged on have not been good enough. At all. But we've got to stick by him for once and try an alternative to just sacking because it's got us where we are today.

The board in my opinion have made some awful decisions - Wilson going being the main one - but they've chucked all their eggs in Lee's basket. If he fails then they all do.

They'd go up in my estimation if they showed the bottle to stick with their man & give him the three windows he's said he needs. I hope they do. History says they won't but something has to change.

 

The new strategy has failed.

The board have failed

They all need to resign ASAP

Not an ounce of confidence in any of em

 

4 years? It's been coming since 2003.

 

They've never given it opportunity to come good. That's the biggest mistake.

 

No it's been coming since Ritchie got the bullet. If not before in my opinion


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Completely agree mate

 

How many will give Johnson a third window if its in the fourth division. That's going to be the dilemma facing the board the way things are going. Johnson is making such a mess of things he may leave the board with absolutely no option because there was no place in any long term strategy for relegation to the fourth division.

 

Maybe so. But it's at that point all confidence in the board completely disappears. Completely. So it's in their interest that he gets it right and quickly.

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Absolutely, if Johnson fails then so do the board in my opinion. They're as culpable as Johnson and they must share the responsibility for failure.

 

Johnson has been exposed as nothing more than a used car salesman who has managed to blag himself the biggest sale of his career. You can probably say the same about mansford. The biggest worry though, is that our owner allowed himself to be so easily duped by there waffle.

 

When the strategy's as bad as ours with no experience in the side, a reliance on loans & a manager that continually plays players out of position you can't expect anyone to wait 2 or 3 years on the off chance it might work

 

But the real problem is no matter the board strategy LJ still coaches and picks the team. A team which is not only failing to win matches, but getting beaten by very very poor teams. And he seems absolutely clueless about how to change the direction of a match.

I really want the board to stick by someone (like Wilson), but I have a very hard time wanting them to stick by possibly the most clueless manager they've appointed in recent years.

It's like they've finally got the message that patience breeds confidence. But some so at a time when their guy is out of his depth.

If they do stick with him I still hope he does well and turns it around. If he does then it will prove I was wrong and know **** all about football!

 

Exactly. If he's made the scapegoat and sacked it just means the board who have appointed many bad managers go and find another head coach to put up with what's going on at board level. Any decent manager will want to be a manager and not accept coming to us as an head coach. Lee Johnson again has been going on about experience and bringing in players of the right ilk which I think probably means older. Yet in pops another inexperienced kid that will do nothing for the confidence in Hecky/Burton/Branson or our own youngsters.

 

He's got a team of kids. Whoever manages them to January that isn't going to change

 

A couple of older players in on loan could make a big difference.

But for that it means the "board" have to admit they are wrong. It took 3 years to admit Davey was wrong

 

But is there


could the plan be land......stranger things have happened at sea.... prime building land at that end of town.....not saying it is but a smaller club if any plays into their hands ...... big business think further to the future than any of us

not everybody loves Bfc why would a small time club stand in the way of a major project that could net somebody profit running into millions the club sits on prime building land and struggles to survive. ( so we are led to believe ) theres no sentiment in big busness.

How business heps to sink the ship..First appoint a poor crew...drain the life out of something by stiffing growth over a set amout of years sit back and allow it to eventually self emplode.whilst appearing to attempt to steer the said ship to calmer waters with one eye on the rocks that is the intended target.
Change the captain often after all a good captain can navigate the said ship and rally both crew and passengers....

Be aware lots of passengers will jump ship that makes it all the more easire to steer less chance of revolt

yes there will be discord but the ships company point to the stormy waters that they are experiencing and announce .....we are doing our best to steady the ship but you must realize it takestime....... the rudder is only just hanging in there without it we are power less....


im not and repeat not suggesting that this is the case at oakwell nor am i saying any of it is true but
i do think out side of the box
and the above explanation shows how easy it would be to do

 

Arthur Daley in disguise?

 

What he said

 

Don't think it's a case of whats gone before this time.
First of all it's a poor argument when the best reason that you have for keeping a manager is that we have sacked a lot before, granted that's wrong and something we really shouldn't be doing but it just shows how ***** our recruitment has been not the actual deed, although personally I would have given DW more support.
The case for getting shut this time is pretty damning, first and foremost a style of football almost boring beyond belief, and there's not much chance of that improving even if results do (remember Oldham fans warned us and they were doing OK at the time)
Also quite a few have mentioned that maybe a new manager couldn't do any better given the current squad, well maybe he wouldn't have to because come January who is to say the loanees are going to hang around at a club falling like a brick (either their decision or their parent club) and the vultures will be circling to pick off our own decent players.
Its not a big stretch to see that we could be virtually starting again come the new year, and given current apathy caused by the on field performance there's hardly going to be anybody that cares enough to watch it anymore!

 

Just sack em....LJ TW and BM

Sick of em all....clueless