The most important bit from Hill's Yorkshire Post interview

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  1. Gor

    Gordon Ottershaw Well-Known Member

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    “The situation is what it is and we work with what we’ve got, and I’m quite happy to do that.”

    Which is basically what Mark Robins wasn't prepared to do. Isn't this exactly the sort of message we want from a manager when we're in the financial position we're in?

    And now we're in mid-table, having almost been as high as 7th over the weekend. We haven't spent much money, but have unearthed some gems. We've got at least three players who are close to being worth big money. And more importantly we have a management duo who are not scared of the challenge and are rising to it, unlike the previous one.

    We're in a far better position than any of us would have thought after the Boro game and I imagine we're in a far better position, both in the league and financially, than we would have been if Robins was still in charge.

    Every now and again we're going to come across a team full of Premiership level players who are going to play to their potential, so unless we are playing well above ours we aren't going to win that particular game. But on the whole, the effort and teamwork from our players is going to do us just fine.

    So what's the worry!
     
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    The worry? The worry is that barnsley fans don't have anything to over react to. We're supposed to be going down with the lowest points ever with the worst side in Barnsley history, but we've got too many now points already.

    So fans need to overreact the other way meaning the side have to win every game scoring 12 goals (no less), Steele playing sweeper with the verve of Koeman while keeping a clean sheet.

    Jacob should have Messi feeling the need to retire to clean his boots he has so much envy of our young skip and Alan Shearer feeling so jealous of Craig Davies scoring prowess he creates a new twitter account called @imnotworthytolickdaviesboots and ultimately gets sacked by MotD because he advertises it in every post prem match snippet.

    Anything less than 12-0 thumpings of the oposition is just not good enough and means the world will end, but worse than that, we are indeed s**t.

    So don't be so silly with this common sense approach...sheesh! ;-)
     
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    Too right. A manager confident in his own ability and happy of the chance to be managing at a very good level. It beats Bobins who had little faith in his own ability to work within our new means so took his ball home like a quiter.
     
  4. Dan

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    Probably counted against him with some of the jobs he'd been linked with or mentioned being on the shortlist for. Wonder how he views events at Oakwell now as he sits on his sofa hoping to be called to be an "expert" pundit on soccer saturday with the dowies of this world?
     
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    Can't disagree with the view that Hill has worked minor miracles with what he's had at his disposal. No secret that he has way exceeded my expectations. But does anyone find it not even slightly disheartening that in this same Yorkshire Post interview he is saying: "There might be a possibility that we will lose.....one or two players if the right money comes in bid-wise." Its pretty clear that we are at great risk of losing Butts and Steele, and now he has established that he can cut it at Championship level, Davies must also be in view of the clubs surveying our next fire-sale.

    I know that Hill has so won over many on here that they will say "so what - he'll bring more in!" That may be so, and clearly relegation is not going to be a threat this season. But can he keep up the alchemy, turning base metal into gold? My instinct is that this can't go on indefinitely, and that sooner or later, we will fail. At the very least, it conveys no sense of building for the future, when every promising/improving player is put in the shop window.

    I know Barnsley have more or less always followed this course, but I've never known them so brazen about it. Fine to any of you that disagree - its a game of opinions. But I'm still disenchanted with the background noise.
     
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    It's part of his master plan though isn't it? Unearth gems and develop them into saleable assets building the foundations and bit by bit making the club stronger. That's what he did at Rochdale and got them to the playoffs twice and winning automatic promotion once. We'll have to be patient, he said it would be a rollercoaster at the begining of the season and it probably has been a bit like that already in a sense.

    I liked his quote in the interview after the Leeds game when the Radio Sheffield interviewer was talking about the problems if players leave in January. He he didn't see any problems only solutions. There's always a solution or words to that effect.
     
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    Robins was brought to the club and knew he would be given funds to spend, which Cryne stuck to his side of the bargain, when this summer the club changed tack and started to rein in the finances, Robins left because that was different to what brought him to the club in the first place. No problem with Robins or The club on that one.

    This management team came knowing the situ with the funds and have so far just edged in front of the position that Robins had us in last season and I cant recall any of those that slag him off wanting his head on a platter exception to that being SM who nailed his colours to the mast early doors and never waivered in his consistency.

    So we would have been in a worse position if Robins was still here. I`m wondering how you know that for sure.

    Robins gets some stick now he`s left yet most were happy with the slight improved stats at the end of last season, Butterfield next on the hit list. Hammill, Howard, Boggy, Shackell all appreciated whilst at the club now have become pariahs.
     
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    I get the feeling a lot of the delay in Hill accepting the post in the summer was him standing his ground on getting the structure he felt we needed for the club to progress and be successful. I reckon a lot of the groundwork for the season so far was done in those 5 days
     
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    I think the delay was because he was in the running for the Sheff Utd job.
     
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    I will have a foot stamping tantrum if you try and interfere with my vision of Hill in his home office writing his own strategic masterplan to take us to 12th in the Championship (and shopping online for a new coat)
     
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    Where does this information come from?

    Rochdale FC seemed to keep their supporters up to date with the situation re Keith Hill and Barnsley via their official site. They even admitted there was a clause in his contract that would allow him to speak to any Championship club who made an official approach. But Barnsley were the only club mentioned by them, no one else. Nothing appeared on the Sheffield United site, either.
    I'm not saying he wasn't short listed, or had an interview. It's just that I only read it from rumours and gossip.
     
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    Re: Where does this information come from?

    Yeah Jay you big pessimist
     
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    Hang on a minute, you little tinker

    I'm just saying I never saw anything official, not that there wasn't anything official. The probability is that I just missed it.
    Just trying something else.
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    Re: Hang on a minute, you little tinker

    I hope you're not suggesting that there are any approaches other than official ones in football...
     
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    Certainly not, old mate

    :)
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    Excellent posts both - Gordon and Dannys Love Child,
    We truly are shat
    In Hillcroft I trust
     
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    Gordon Ottershaw Well-Known Member

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    Er, I don't. That's why I said "I imagine".
     
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    I didn't say that is what I've read

    I said that is what I thought.
     
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    Re: I didn't say that is what I've read

    So you're admitting to thought crimes against Keith now too. This is getting really upsetting
     
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    If I'm right, which I have no way of knowing

    Then I don't think it's such a crime. Despite them being in a division below, I can understand why someone might think the Sheff Utd job is a bigger job. It's not a crime to go after the best job you can get.

    I could be miles off, but that's what I thought at the time. Glad he came here though, whatever the circumstances.
     

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