The policing/stewarding on saturday was awful yet again

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  1. Sup

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    Anyone agree?</p>

    After the barrier at the front of the ponty end was broken the stewards or police should have done more to stop the idiots from running through the big gap and onto the pitch.</p>

    It's not like they werent given a clue as to what would happen when they all fell through the hole but it seemed too hard for them to work out that putting a few extra stewards/officers in front of that section would be a good idea and a prevention. Obviously blocking the stairs in the west stand (where there is never any trouble) was a much more important job.</p>

    And for several stewards to allow and actively HELP a large number of supporters back into the stands and then arrest two people to me looked very unfair. I noticed that one of them looked quite weak and an easy target. Wonder why they chose him over all the others?</p>
     
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    Thankless job

    No win situation. If there is going to be a planned surge onto the pitch there is little you can do about it, and I would imagine that it is difficult where to decide to contain that. We all know what can happen if a big push develops that gets shoved back, innocent spectators caught in the middle get injured.</p>

    There were also problems in the West stand caused by loads of people who for some reason thought it was ok to stand at the back of the lower tier and cause a blockage throughout the first half. Requested to move by stewards at the start of the second half, many either refused or just ignored the request and finally had to be escorted to wherever their seats were by the police.</p>

    A minority of spectators are their own, and the clubs worst enemy. Stewards have a very difficult and unpredictable job. I wouldn't do it for a gold pig.</p>
     
  3. Sup

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    true but why do they insist on forming a line up against the railings in the west stand?

    As soon as the barrier was damaged in the corner of the ponty end somebody should have made the decision to move just two of those officers from the west stand where they were just watching the game for free, to crouch at the bottom of the gangway and block off the opening onto the pitch. </p>

    Leaving a walkway straight onto the playing surface is just asking for trouble, especially in that area of the ground when we are kicking towards them. It was basically an invitation to the idiots. Prevention is better than the cure and all that, and there had to be some sort of deterrent but there was none at all. It's not like they hadnt just had a preview of what might happen is it.</p>

    Not blaming individual stewards, they cant just take it upon themselves to go and fill the gap. But somebody in charge should have made the decision to do something about it rather than to just leave it as it was and hope for the best.</p>
     
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    Didn't see any trouble(other than the pitch invasion) but at 10 past 3 I was still trying to get in the ground.At the bottom end of the ponty there are three turnstyles.Two were for matchday tickets/season tickets the other one for POTD.</p>

    The ques for the matchday/season tickets was queing around the back of the ponty while there wasn't anyone at the POTD turnstyle.So instead of opening up that turnsyle they shut the door.  </p>

    Surely they should have opened up this turnstyle for season ticket holders rather than shut it up and leave people waiting out side.[​IMG]</p>
     
  5. Gue

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    What a load of B&*^%KS...

    How do you know what was happening in other parts of the ground 10 minutes from the end, so the Stewards MUST have known the reds would get a winner and to be ready for the pitch invasion !!! pillock

    "Just put a few more Stewards in that area".. do you think the club have Stewards stood around just waiting to be used..

    The instigator of the pitch invasion was arrested, if the rest had been taken out it would have meant 20 to 30 Stewards escorting them out 10 minutes from the end, thus leaving the rest of the perimeter unattended.

    You aint got a clue what you're talking about.

    and you talk about easy targets... Yeah its idiots like you that stop the good Stewards attending games cos of all the abuse they take from their own fans... Just remember NO STEWARDS NO GAME... and for your information the Ref gave a massive thanks to the Club and Stewards...

    Rant over...
     
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    Whats all this commotion about a few fans running onto the field to celebrate

    I thought it were great that the fans were on the pitch
    It just showed how much it meant to these fans
    It all added to a great day
    So stop being so pompous
    Its football FFS !!!
     
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    RE: Whats all this commotion about a few fans running onto the field to celebrate

    Aren't we on a suspended punishmentt following sweetcorngate, so the big deal is that it could have cost the club points, and as you well know they every point is crucial this season.
     
  8. Sup

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    RE: What a load of B&*^%KS...

    &quot;Just put a few more Stewards in that area&quot;.. do you think the club have Stewards stood around just waiting to be used.. </p>

    there were several police officers stood watching the game whilst blocking a gangway in the west stand.</p>

    Like I said, I'm not having a go at individual stewards but somebody should have taken the decision to better cover that area.</p>

    Was I the only person in the ground that though 'hang on, they've already gone through the barrier once, we're kicking towards that end and have leeds on the back foot. maybe we should put an extra officer or two to act block the now gaping hole in the barrier and act as a deterrent'?</p>

    And even more bizarrely is that even after the SECOND time that the fans had gone through that same gap in the barrier the police still went straight back to stand in a line against the railings in the west stand and watch the game. Did they seriously not realise that there could be a risk of it happening again if we scored a 4th? How many times does something have to happen before we try to prevent it?</p>
     
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    The police horse didnt bite hard enough.....
     
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    "Was I the only person in the ground that though 'hang on, they've already gone through the barrier once, we're kicking towards that end and have leeds on the back foot. maybe we should put an extra officer or two to act block the now gaping hole in the barrier and act as a deterrent'?"

    yes you were, everyone in the ground was thinking "come on lets get a winner!!!"
     
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    Everybody round where i were sat were cheering um on

    Nowt up with a few fans running on the field
    They did nothing wrong
    In fact if we had another 3000 fans like these the club would be much better off for it
    Its these young (not old) foookers wit thermos flasks and blanki over their knees that need kicking out of the ground
    Repeat - this is football FFS !!!
    (bustin)
     
  12. Gue

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    There won't be a charge because...

    the Ref isn't putting it in his report...
     
  13. Jim

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    RE: There won't be a charge because...

    I know that.... but there could have been.
     
  14. Sup

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    thats ok then

    The ref has failed to do his job properly so we have got away with it yet again.</p>

    Lets pretend it never happened then.... pick that rug up and sweep the incident under it.</p>
     
  15. Gue

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    RE: What a load of B&*^%KS...

    The Police and Stewards are 2 different entities... The Stewards go about their duties regardless of the Police. The Police only act as back up. The Police will only act under the instruction of the Police Commander NOT the Head Steward...

    I can't believe were having this discussion, we won FFS...

    Enjoy the win and get off the Stewards back... Have you seen Stewards at other grounds, ours are loads better...
     
  16. Gue

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    RE: Everybody round where i were sat were cheering um on

    You and your ilk would have the club closed down before the season was over if you were given the choice. People who run on the pitch are just idiots who should receive a three year ban.
     
  17. Gue

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    Are you for real...

    The Referee was very happy that the incident was dealt with. No one was injured and none of the players or officials were in danger.

    It was a local derby and a reyt climax to a fantastic game...

    Or would you prefere everybody to whisper and sit on their hands for 90 minutes...
     
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    Not getting into the argument you're having

    but there's a lot of middle ground between sitting on your hands for 90 minutes and running on the pitch. There's no excuse for entering the field of play. There just isn't.
     
  19. Gue

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    I'm not arguing... i'm stating facts...

    How can the Stewards prevent a pitch invasion.. You'd need around 200 Stewards around the perimeter of the pitch
     
  20. Jim

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    Its not about the stewards at the end of the day..

    Its about the fans.
     

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