The racist chanting. Don't blame security.

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  1. Gue

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    It's difficult to do anything 5 minutes before the end of the game. The stewards have to be in certain positions to open emergency gates etc and the Search and Eject team who would normally go in and hoof these people out are deployed next to the away fans and the referee for obvious reasons. 5 minutes before the end it would cause a serious H+S problem.

    Scenario - we send in a team of Search and Eject to get these people detained just as the final whistle goes, a fan runs on the pitch to the referee and assaults him and there are no S+E to stop it. £10,000 fine for the club.

    Another - the incident with the QPR goalie and that fan fighting in the back of the net… where were the stewards? Maybe busy dealing with some name-calling.

    It's not as simple as it looks and it's important to also look at what DOESN'T happen week in week out.

    And finally a little statistic for those who believe the club, Shaun Doyle Security and the police aren't doing enough to eradicate undesirable elements from the crowd -

    Barnsley Football Club have more banning orders in place than ANY OTHER CLUB IN OUR DIVISION.












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  3. Terry Nutkins

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    What is the link supposed to prove Dillinger? It only talks about Prem and 1st division.

    Windy said that we have the highest in OUR division.
     
  4. Gue

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    Read it again eh?
     
  5. Jay

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    It proves once and for all

    That Dillinger is a damn fool
     
  6. Jay

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    eh?

    What is there in that article that contradicts what Windy said?
     
  7. Gue

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    Fair enough but

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4407844.stm

    Wendys had more last year, Hull the year before. No stats out for this season till next October

    Btw Windy obv knows more than most of us about the work the stewards are doing so I can't comment on that.
     
  8. Jay

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    You've magically turned in to a guest

    Is that what happens when you make an arse of yourself?

    Clever this board, innit. BTW, neither Hull nor Sheffield Wednesday are in our division. Just thought I'd mention that.
     
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    On the subject of stewards opening gates

    Why do they invariably only open 1 door of a double door? Bottom of the stairs in East Stand for example. Often only 1 of the double gates is open as well.
     
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    RE: On the subject of stewards opening gates

    I'll ask this afternoon in our briefing
     
  11. Gue

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    Latest stats

    Club Supported BANS
    Barnsley 59 (13)
    Blackpool 5 (2)
    Bournemouth 11 (6)
    Bradford City 32 (7)
    Brentford 2 (0)
    Bristol City 43 (5)
    Chesterfield 50 (8)
    Colchester United15 (2)
    Doncaster Rovers 32 (7)
    Gillingham 1 (0)
    Hartlepool United31 (13)
    Huddersfield Town27 (6)
    MK Dons 3 (1)
    Nottingham Forest77 (36)
    Oldham Athletic 18 (1)
    Port Vale 60 (0)
    Rotherham United10 (0)
    Scnuthorpe United28 (4)
    Southend United 9 (3)
    Swansea City 26 (2)
    Swindon Town 23 (9)
    Tranmere Rovers 41 (36)
    Walsall 27 (15)
    Yeovil Town 1 (0)
    TOTAL 631
     
  12. Gue

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    RE: Latest stats

    I'm beginning to have sympathy with the Milkman bullying bearbunch boy
     
  13. Jay

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    Why have you logged out

    Could you explain the stats, what is the number in brackets?

    And all I said was that the article you posted didn't contradict what Windy said, which it didn't.
     
  14. Gue

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    RE: Why have you logged out

    at home, ill as ****. Supposed to have interview tonight but it's been put back

    Stat in brackets is 2003/4 figures. Hold my hands up, that first link didn't contradict it. Knew I'd read somewhere that we weren't the highest. Wendy's were in our league last year and were higher.
     
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    RE: Why have you logged out

    So we're third rather than first. Still think Windy's point holds. ie The club are doing summat about things, banning orders are in place, far more so than at many clubs.

    'sup wi you anyway?
     
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    How many of the banning orders

    are for racist chanting? my guess would be most are for drunk and disorderly or feightin. EVERY SINGLE TIME we play Bradford, the same chant can be heard. am I asking too much to think that the stewards could organise themselves a bit, perhaps plain clothes, cctv cameras, etc to make a visible and recongnisable attempt at sorting these pricks out? I'm asked to show my tickets every time I walk up the end gangway of the East Lower. what does that achieve? f.uck all cos we walk two gangways down and across the bottom.

    not good enough. by far.
     
  17. Gue

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    RE: Why have you logged out

    You 2 love each other
     
  18. Terry Nutkins

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    How would wearing plain clothes make them visible - just asking like?

    I also am disgusted by the chants but the honest truth is that the only way to knab the little Enochs is through use of CCTV cameras due to evidence needed for any court case to be taken seriously. I agree we need to stamp this out or go back to the days in the late 80's when black players called BFC fans the most racist in the country. The problem lies with the amount that are doing it and spotting them with CCTV. How can a security guard (Only a trained bouncer) or group of guards be expected to eject 25-30 morons? It would cause chaos.</p>
     
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    Are plain clothes invisible?
     
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    I mean stand near or amongst them

    catch them at it. get the cctv evidence, wait til end of game and round them up. f.ucking hell fire......
     

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