The State of Barnsley FC

Ok im relatively new to the board, ive been more of a reader than a contributor over the last 2 or 3 months, but felt now the season was over it was worth discussing the Davey situation.

First and foremost hes kept us in this division. Remember 3 seasons ago, Ritchie looked on the verge of taking us back down to league one, was sacked/left by mutual consent and the future of Barnsley FC was looking like it wasnt going to progress, rather jump back 2 seasons.

In comes a young, unknown, unproven manager with nothing more than experience in managing youth teams/reserves on his CV. He does the unthinkable and keeps us up, with if I remember rightly, the "mighty" leeds united going down.

The following year he scalps two of the biggest clubs in not only England, but Europe and the World, out of the FA cup, and effectively putting Barnsley back on the map. Our league position fell, but he once again, kept us in the league, raised the profile of Barnsley football club and importantly, put money in the coffers.

So the following season, with money in the bank, he sets out and makes Barnsley's biggest signing in a decade. £1.2million signings have been unheard of over the last 10 years down at oakwell. Unfortunately for Hume and all at Barnsley, he gets injured. Davey manages to bring in an unknown for Barnsley. Who makes the top 50 season signings according to some poll (think it was the guardian) and scores 5 goals for Barnsley in the short period he has been with us. Once again, even with bad form, Davey keeps us in the league.

So the Future.... Yes It may look like Barnsley arent progressing, it may look like Davey is just keeping us in this league. But look at the state of the club as a whole. Our Team is alot stronger now than it was 3 years ago, we are alot better financially than we were 3 years ago and i believe that we are alot better equipped to progress under Davey than we have been in quite sometime. Yes the man has made some mistake, with tactics, with players and with fans. But he's young and he is learning.

Its not quite in the same league but look what happens with teams who stick with their managers....Man Utd -> Alex Ferguson and teams that dont .... Newcastle -> Every other manager under the sun.

No Davey hasnt got us into the Premier League... but lets give him time and see...

 

That sounds suspiciously like common sense mate - tha'll not last long on here!</p>

An' where's the personal abuse?
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Are you simon or mark?

 

just saying it how i see it, i think he's been given alot of criticism from the fans and we should turn and look at our club. The guy has worked miracles in stabilising this club and i think we all need to get behind him instead of starting a revolving door scenario

 

ah well thats how it seems to me

 

Great post!!

Simon may well lead us to bigger and better further down the track, might even be in 3 or 4 years, but lets give someone chance to do something over a decent amount of years!

 

If this were published in the public domain in support of Davey

it would be considered an argument without fault. Whilst you are obviously a Davey supporter, your logic is sound. I think that we had better get behind SD for the coming season. I would like to think that this statement is designed by someone close to SD and who needs to get a message across that SD will be manager next season because he has not failed and has produced some success.

If SD is to be manager next season, he will have my support on the basis of your argument. I think we need a similarly positive statement from SD himself. Let's at least set out with high expectations and the best possible motivation. Let's also be realistic. SD needs to say that we will start the season with the aim of reaching the play-offs. Even if we were to fail, at least it will be a better cause than just to avoid relegation for the fourth season.

Spend what money we have wisely SD and let's aim for greater things.

 

Wind up

Got to be, you cannot be real, a glimmer of hope today at least. now cryne HAS stated that no decision has been made on Daveys future, lets hope he goes.

 

Whether you are for or against Simon Davey the one thing he hasn't done is work miracles

Nothing even close. In fact, such a statement is ridiculous. He's been steady away. Good results have been tempered by bad. The fact that there is so much speculation about his future from not only the fans but the club's owner is down to the fact that we're not doing all that well. There is an argument for keeping him, he has kept us in the division for the last 3 seasons, but let's not start talking daft and pretending that anything he has done equates to miracles.

 

1st of all all the so called scalping blithly ignores the fact that if our new loan keeper had'nt had the game of his life and if Liverpools strikers had'nt been at their most wasteful we would have been stuffed out of sight it also ignores the fact that if there was any justice in football Blackpool would have beaten us in the previous round.OK it was a workman like performance that deserved all the praise it got but hardly the work of tactical genius.
You say that once again he kept us in the league but it was his tactics that largely had us at the bottom to start with.He was unlucly with Hume granted (not as unlucky as Hume like) and once again he kept us in the league again ignores that he was largely responsible for us being in that position,and the 5 goal striker might have done even bertter if he had been used correctly.You also mention those two signings and again effectively ignore all the ones he got wrong in assembling an unbalanced and impotent squad.
I hope youy are right and comes good but he needs to stop alienating as many fans as he does (mind you suppose we are outside the game so what do we frigging know eh?) stop defending against teams we should be going forand admitting to a few mistakes instead of treating us like idiots and trotting out the same peurile excuses week after week.

 

i agree totaly common sence traveller tyke

 

Trying to devalue the cup run. That's a new one!

 

lets at least give the guy a chance, change takes time. Look at previous managers, we were heading for league one before Davey came in. He's steadied the boat. We may have rode our luck with the cup run, but the finances have given us the chance to sign players like hume. Yes Davey has got his tactics wrong numerous times, but hes come out and said that. The last 6-7 matches of the season when we started attacking teams, we looked alot better. Yes we drew too many of them, but with a striker who can score goals, which hopefully hume will do, who's to say we cant start beating these teams. I think people who think we're all of a sudden going to become play off contenders need to wake up. The aim should be to get our team towards the middle of the table, keep progressing and eventually 5-6 years down the line, start looking towards the play offs. We're a small team in comparison to the likes of Birmingham, Reading, WBA, Wolves etc etc. We will only start to match these teams 5-10 years down the line, with steady progression. Its like Newcastle fans saying next year we should be challenging for Europe. Jesus people wake up.

 

good post traveller nt

 

Load of rubbish

makes no odds the size of the team look at Leeds Norwich southampton Charlton etc and as we were heading for league 1 before davey came how on earth do you work that out?dont say that because we were bottom in November doesnt mean we were going down you only have to look at donny and forest this year As for keeping managers for years it doesnt seem to have worked to well at crewe and Arsenal are a bit fed up an all Lets get rid now and we might get someone in with more ambition than to think that staying up is a massive achievment

 

christ

 

not trying to devalue it at all just pointing out that with the exception of Chelski I thought we were very fortunbate and it had not much to do with Davey at all. The performance at Liverpool most managers would have got good grief if they were'nt up for that one there would truly have been no hope.

 

We dont' need poeple like you on this board.

I'll become boring!

 

You already are boring

 

RE: Well said Traveller

I also think the fact that we're in good financial health will stand us in good stead next season. We should be competing on a more level playing field