"The Whore Lived Like a German"

THE DEATH OF A MUSLIM WOMAN

"The Whore Lived Like a German"

By Jody K. Biehl in Berlin

In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?



Polizei Berlin
Hatin Surucu just wanted to live her own life. Instead, she became Berlin's latest victim of honor killings. Her Turkish Muslim brothers allegedly gunned her down for adopting Western ways.
The shots came from nowhere and within minutes the young Turkish mother standing at the Berlin bus stop was dead. A telephone call from a relative had brought her to this cold, unforgiving place. She thought she would only be gone for a few minutes and wore a light jacket in the freezing February wind. She had left her five-year-old son asleep in his bed. He awoke looking for his mother, who, like many Turkish women in Germany, harbored a secret life of fear, courage and, ultimately, grief. Now her little boy has his own tragedy to bear: His mother, Hatin Surucu, was not the victim of random violence, but likely died at the hands of her own family in what is known as an "honor killing."

Hatin's crime, it appears, was the desire to lead a normal life in her family's adopted land. The vivacious 23-year-old beauty, who was raised in Berlin, divorced the Turkish cousin she was forced to marry at age 16. She also discarded her Islamic head scarf, enrolled in a technical school where she was training to become an electrician and began dating German men. For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways. Days after the crime, police arrested her three brothers, ages 25, 24 and 18. The youngest of the three allegedly bragged to his girlfriend about the Feb. 7 killing. At her funeral, Hakin's Turkish-Kurdish parents draped their only daughter's casket in verses from the Koran and buried her according to Muslim tradition. Absent of course, were the brothers, who were in jail.

The crime might be easier to digest if it had been an archaic anomaly, but five other Muslim women have been murdered in Berlin during the past four months by their husbands or partners for besmirching the family's Muslim honor. Two of them were stabbed to death in front of their young children, one was shot, one strangled and a fifth drowned. It seems hard to fathom, but in the middle of democratic Western Europe -- in Germany, a nation where pacifism is almost a universal mantra -- murderous macho patriotism not only exists but also appears to be thriving. It may even be Germany's liberalism -- and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures -- that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.

The problem is that much of this insular and ultra-religious world is out of public view, often hidden in inner-city apartments where the most influential links to the outside world are satellite dishes that receive Turkish and Arabic television and the local mosque. Tens of thousands of Turkish women live behind these walls of silence, in homes run by husbands many met on their wedding day and ruled by the ever-present verses of the Koran. In these families, loyalty and honor are elevated virtues and women are treated little better than slaves, unseen by society and often unnoticed or ignored by their German neighbors. To get what they want, these women have to run. They have to change their names, their passports, even their hair color and break with the families they often love, but simply can no longer obey.



DER SPIEGEL
Turkish women who have fled their husbands and violent marriages and live in a shelter take a stroll in Munich's Olympic Park. The women, activists say, live in constant fear that their husbands or families will find them and abuse or kill them.
Precise statistics on how many women die every year in such honor killings are hard to come by, as many crimes are never reported, said Myria Boehmecke of the Tuebingen-based women's group Terre des Femmes which, among other things, tries to protect Muslim girls and women from oppressive families. The Turkish women's organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Examples include a Darmstadt girl whose two brothers pummelled her to death with a hockey stick in April 2004 after they learned she had slept with her boyfriend. In Augsburg in April, a man stabbed his wife and 7-year-old daughter because the wife was having an affair. In December 2003, a Tuebingen father strangled his 16-year-old daughter and threw her body into a lake because she had a boyfriend. Bullets, knives, even axes and gasoline are the weapons of choice. The crime list compiled by Papatya is an exercise in horror. And the sad part, said Boehmecke, is that it is far from complete. "We'll never really know how many victims there are. Too often these crimes go unreported."

In many cases, fathers -- and sometimes even mothers -- single out their youngest son to do the killing, Boehmecke said, "because they know minors will get lighter sentences from German judges." In some cases, these boys are revered by their community and fellow inmates as "honor heroes" -- a dementedly skewed status they carry with them for the rest of their lives. Currently, six boys are serving time in Berlin's juvenile prison for honor killings. "In a way, these boys are victims, too," she said. Sometimes they are forced to kill their favorite sister.

 

So are you cheering cos there's a few less to hate...

.. or morally outraged?

 

The brothers should meet with a similar death. Why should we have to maintain people like that for the rest of their natural lives.

 

and muslims are such a...

"peacefull" faith aren't they.

 

One more example, as if we ever needed it, of how so called Multicultural societies will eventually destroy the world, unless someone gets a grip on it and eradicates the yearning for one invasive culture to convert, destroy, subjugate (call it what you will) all others.</p>

Multi-religion possibly.</p>

Multiculturalism, at the moment - never</p>

 

You don't expect an answer to that do you?

 

Would I be surprised?

 

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How about offering a solution, or does that give your game away?

 

Terrible, awful crimes for which in a world where people are respected as individuals holds no place in any society. But then I could point to lots of non-Muslim women who have been killed by their spouses and many of them would say they are Christians too. So im not quite sure what your point proves other than people will murder for a variety of reasons/beliefs. Of course it does mean that you get to do your usual Muslim bashing thread - and maybe that's the point.......

 

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Find a picture of an individual holding a placard = everyone of that faith.

I'm sure we could find similar pictures of other peoples.

 

Where is the fun in that???

 

RE: Where is the fun in that???

Well if people get their kicks by stigmatising people of different faiths on bulletin boards as part of a wind-up then obviously that's a real chortle. I mean how could it not be?

 

Like I said , hilarious.

I guess its all part of being afraid of something you dont understand.</p>

 

You're right.

Obviously he's the only one.

 

"individual" ????

so there weren't hundreds in london the other week holding the same sort of thing, and even worse?

 

RE: "individual" ????

One Eye Blind

You've got a strange way o' seeing all the killing in your name
And a funny way of ignoring all the murder and the pain
Cos whilst those bombs are fallin' and you're off a wagin' wars
Your blind eye's a turnin' from the dying and the poor

Then you put your faith in Jesus then jumped aboard a ship of fools
Who said they fought for freedom whilst breaking all Gods rules
So when you sing for love your country then bow down before the flag
It's your blind eye's that's not seein' all the dead in body bags

So you can pretend that you can't see while you look the other way
And you talk in double standards whilst you're playing God all day
But won't see the dead and buried deep beneath the ground
Cos your blind eyes a turnin' while you kick the truth around

And those beliefs you have are phoney cos to God you say they're tied
And so are those you're fighting - would JC have taken sides?
So save me all your preaching and what you claim is right and wrong
Cos i dont need your false ideals or your party to belong

 

Final and conclusive proof that Windy is a Christian

See point 7</p>

<div align="center"><h1>Top Ten Signs that You're a Christian</h1>

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10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god. </p>

 9 - You feel insulted and &quot;dehumanized&quot; when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. </p>

 8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god. </p>

 7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the &quot;atrocities&quot; attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in &quot;Exodus&quot; and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in &quot;Joshua&quot; -- including women, children, and trees! </p>

 6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. </p>

 5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old. </p>

 4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most &quot;tolerant&quot; and &quot;loving&quot;. </p>

 3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in &quot;tongues&quot; may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity. </p>

 2 - You define 0.01% as a &quot;high success rate&quot; when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. </p>

 1 - You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian. </p>

 

RE: Final and conclusive proof that Windy is a Christian

See here - http://www.barnsleyfc.org.uk/bbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=24374&mid=150338#M150338