Thinking about Chron etc today...........

I think that giving Davey more time may work! Ive never really been in the 'Davey Out' club but i must admit that at times last season it became very very hard to defend him!! But today on back of chron there is something that really stands out at me. Davey admitting he made mistakes!!

This has never happened before. He used all the excuses you could think of at times and then when all else failed sent Ryan Kidd to do the talking for him!! But when you look back at the last 9 games of the season - there was a big improvement i would say. And that was mainly because Davey realised it was time to not worry about the opposition and play to our strong points. He went mainly 4-4-2 and from the Derby away game we only really messed up at home against Swansea (And to be honest ive seen us play alot worse than we did that day but Swansea played very well and took there chances!). We played well at Brammal Lane but didnt take our chances, Should have won at Watford but for a gopalkeeping error, played well at Reading and could easily have nicked all 3 points, Should have won at Coventry but for that descision and Boggy missing a sitter!! Then put in a good shift against the league champions and again were unlucky not to come away with 3 points.

So, has the penny dropped with Davey??? He is correct when he says he is a young manager and still learning. Has he learnt from his mistakes. i hope so.

I can understand why people want him out before you all shoot me down!!!! But i really think with a GOOD STRIKER or 2(!) signed in the summer we could have a good improvement on this season.

One thing is for sure - If Davey is still in charge come August - He knows full well he needs to get up and running straight away. Or he will be picking up his P45 by october!!

Whoever is in charge - il be there in my seat as usual!!

Good luck Simon!! Prove your doubters wrong! If you cant - Thanks for trying but ta-ra!!

 

Good Post

I agree completely...i think he knows where he has gone wrong...i still think he is the best man for this club at this moment in time.

 

I should amagine that Simon Davey will be our manager come the begining of the new season. If that is so then good luck to him.
How anyone in this economic climate could be a football manager, and read , if he does read the negative, the trial by tactics, the trial by personallity, the trial that he is welsh, and fat, and useless with it, should bring a great smile to his face.

I am on the outside looking in , as a season ticket holder for the last 23years the football we have witnessed this season and for the most part since Simon Davey has been our manager as been very poor. But with luck or endevour we have survived as a championship club. Davey as been there to keep us in this competetive league for the last three seasons.

To Cast him out with his CV in tact would be foolish, just think , kept a small club like BarnsleyFC in the championship for three seasons , an FA cupsemi-final at wembley, the first for this unatractive club since 1912, beat the likes of Liverpool ansd Chelsea, and actually put this little old club on the world map for the first time in god knows when. Love him or hate the guy, Davey hasn't done all that bad, and if he should be sacked, ( which i think would be doubtfull) then he can walk out of Oakwell with a CV that many chaimen in the football league would be proud of, and many would be lining him up as their next manager.

 

Davey admitting he made mistakes

seems a bit of a coincidence coming a few days after he's been told to build a better rapport with the fans.

I hope he is being honest and not just saying what he thinks the fans want to hear.

However, we'll only know whether or not he's sincere with his comments when the season starts again

 

Re: Thinking about Chron etc today........... nt

 

RE: Davey admitting he made mistakes

OF COURSE ITS A COINCIDENCE

 

Good points

It will start with his own personal ambition for the club and his desire for us the succeed to the best of our ability, not the worst!

 

Good post and I've got to agree!

If he really means what he says and it's not just ballax telling the fans what they want to hear, then i'll be fully behind him. A couple of good signings and i believe we could have a good season.

 

I think its ballax and he's been told to tell the fans what they want to hear or get sacked

 

if Davey is talking the talk to appease Cryne and the fans he has, in my opinion ,set himself up to fail. I will say today as I did a year ago that this manager has a major problem with his thinking and in the past I have used the term cognitions as apposed to thoughts. He impresses with the spoken word and is convincingly listend to. The only time this man will not try and blag himself out of a situation is when he has'nt the courage to face the media. I think that some would call it selective avoidance.

I now intend to buy a S.T. where up to last week I had thrown the dolly out of the pram and had decided not to go again but, I have now come around and will buy, not to support the manager but the club and what is running through my blood.

I compare this situation with a bad marriage and wonder whether a divorce would be the better option but no, I will remain in the marriage a a while longer so that the pro-Davey children will not suffer and to stay until they sufficiently mature and are able to provide an informed and intelligent opinion of the Davey situation. I will not have a extramarital affair inspite of this,meaning I will not play around with other clubs inspite of going through a bad patch with the marriage. Ho well fun over for today.

 

He's talked the talk, Dave

The quantity and quality of the incoming transfers this summer, alongside which players re sign, will show if he walks the walk.

 

The problem is

he talked the talk last season, unfortunatly he only managed to drag himself over the finish line inside the final 90 minutes of a 9 month season.

PC is putting the club in danger by keeping Davey and I cannot for the life of me understand the reasoning behind taking that risk.

 

RE: The problem is

It's catch 22 - without giving Davey a last chance, how can he prove he's learnt from his mistakes?

On the balance of probabilities - and given the positives he's brought to the club with good signings/development of existing players - I would say he deseves a crack at it next season and review where we are in October.

 

I'd have dispensed with his services, that's no secret

But it's not my decision to make, that responsibility rests with Mr Cryne. Mr Davey has now to back up his words with actions to prove he's learned from the mistakes he himself has admitted to making.
I don't think he's capable, but it'd be absolutely brilliant if I'm wrong. The success of Barnsley FC is far more important to me than my ego.

 

He had a chance to prove that he had learnt from his mistakes last season after the **** season we had endured the year before (with the exception of two games). We all saw a key problem even before the season started when we lost pretty much all of our friendlies even against non league teams and showed ourselves to be clueless in front of goal yet 9 months later we were still clueless in front of goal and davey had not learnt from his mistakes, was still trying to sit back and defend.

He's had his chances, too many already in my opinion and it is not good for the club to give him yet another chance to take us down

 

'we lost pretty much all of our friendlies even against non league teams'</p>

Actually we didn't. Against non-league teams our record was W2 D2. Overall it was W3, D2, L3.</p>

 

RE: The problem is

If Cryne thinks Davey is the man for the job at the start of next season dont be fooled into thinking he will sack him in October or after a few months.

The earliest will be just before the January transfer window.

His feet should not have touched this summer but it looks like Cryne`s been took in by Davey. Their Chronicle pieces are almost identical.

Davey out plus an `at arms length' chairman required IMO.

 

The defence is still weak in my opinion, with no left back in the squad, the midfield is very one dimensional as well, we can attack down the right wing if davey decides to play a winger, otherwise forget it as Davey decided not to bother with a left winger or an attacking midfielder this season and our strikers are worse than when davey took over.

Essentially he's strengthened our central defence, defensive midfield and right wing in three years