This "mother" sentenced to life....

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  1. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    I'd quite happily see her hanged with barbed wire.

    I know that something made her like this but what a despicable piece of ****.

    Yours

    A loony lefty
     
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    Dont worry.

    Theyll be queuing around the block to make sure she settles in.
     
  3. DusThaNoIII

    DusThaNoIII Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely won't stand for that talk but absolutely disgusting to see the boyfriend that let it happen got less time than Adam Johnson.
     
  4. Marlon

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    There'll be a prepared statement from social services along the lines of.lessons will be learned ,services joining together to stop this happening again. Blah blah blah
     
  5. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    Social Services are woefully underfunded. It amazes me that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often.

    I'm sure things could have been better but none of that excuses the actions of this oxygen thief.
     
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    Yes they are underfunded ,no doubt about that but this social worker was warned numerous times by the father's family ,was aware she had been admitted to hospital as was doctor,police etc.
    Not looking for a scapegoat but same excuses time after time.
    Amazingly social worker retired straight after his case file was examined.advised to of course.
    This would not have happened to say a bus driver or similar.
    If he fekrd up or was overworked let's have the truth instead of a regular prepared statement taken out of draw everytime something like this happens its wearing thin now IMO.
    That's not excusing the waste of breath people who did this but if we hits someone to protect kids let's have some value gor money. Sounds like this case could have easily been prevented with the evidence at social services disposal.
     
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    ^ This ^
     
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    Exactly
     
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    a firing squad is too good for that cow,nevertheless,its about time the death penalty was brought back for people like this.
     
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    It's truly awful and I don't mind admitting that I can't read about it without coming close to tears. My two little girls will be getting an even bigger cuddle than normal when I get in tonight


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  11. MarioKempes

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    Funding cannot excuse another appalling failure by Social Services. Every time a child dies in these appalling circumstances there is damning evidence to show that they were known to child protection agencies and had long medical histories supporting abuse and that there had been warnings from people registering concern about the welfare of the child.

    Victoria Climbie, Baby P, Amy Howson are all high profile cases when we were promised that 'lessons would be learned' but they don't seem to have been. The same mistakes keep happening, the same lack of attention and action contribute to the deaths of these children.

    The evil b'stards who do this are to blame but we have in place services who are there to protect them. I don't know what has gone wrong again but I seriously believe that if warning signs were ignored then somebody within the child protection services needs to be looking at a prison sentence too.

    There are several examples of social services being heavy-handed in cases that don't really warrant it; they're over the top and intrusive for no good reason yet when it really matters they make the same mistakes over and over again, often with the same tragic conclusion.

    I’d hang this vermin scum but that isn’t going to happen but at the very least they should be sterilised so upon release they can’t come out and breed again.
     
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    Every time this happens underfunded overworked social workers are hung out to dry. Usually by the press that support austerity. Brilliant documentary on the Baby P case the other year putting right some of the nonsense from the time
     
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    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    They're hung out to dry because of the numerous missed opportunities to intervene. I'm not blaming the workers on the ground, not entirely, I'm blaming the whole infrastructure and the incompetence at the top that keeps making the same mistakes.

    People like Sharon 'teflon' Shoesmith who should be taking responsibility for their part in the failings don't learn lessons, they just keep peddling the same sound bites that they think the public want to hear and that will exonerate them from responsibility.

    Austerity can't be blamed because this has been happening for years, long before austerity was implemented on services. There is a duty of care on these services and maybe if they focused more on the children that were seriously at risk then they may avoid another tragic death like this.

    Like I said the parents are to blame for this and I believe sentences should be far more severe and draconian than they are but sadly they are so inadequate as human beings that I don't know if anything would be a deterrent. After all what normal person needs a deterrent not to beat their infant children to death over a prolonged period of time.
     
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    Exactly this ^^^
    99.9% of social workers do a fantastic and most times thankless job and I for one salute them but there's also an element let's them down ,as in most walks of life.but the safeguards and procedures in this case were ignored.
    It's not the case this social worker is being hung out to dry whatsoever,he was incompetent,negligent and cavalier with a young girls life in fact a baby who couldn't speak for herself ,and the ones who spoke up for her were and the warning signs were blatantly ignored.
    The fact he was allowed to retire prematurely to TRY and escape the scrutiny is disgusting.
    This wasn't a case of overworked,underfunded oversight this was neglect of Duty,and humanity imo
     
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    Loads of good articles further to the documentary on Baby P and the nonsense aimed at social services and Shoesmith in that case. This is just one example:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...llain-Victim-Or-someone-who-got-it-wrong.html
     
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    All that article says to me is 'don't necessarily blame the system and those in charge, it's the neglectful *******s who visited and knew but did nothing who are to blame'. Which is exactly the point people were making wasn't it?

    Lack of funding doesn't cause 60 visits to go without action. Neglect and not wanting the paperwork does.
     
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    My mum was a social worker best part of twenty years ago and i doubt very much has changed.

    From her experiences and to a lesser extent my own the phrase middle management bureacracy springs to mind
     
  19. MarioKempes

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    And Daniel Pelka; how many opportunities were missed to save him?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10214410/Timeline-harrowing-death-of-Daniel-Pelka.html

    In all of these cases there were opportunities to intervene and save the child but they were missed. Something has to change, saying 'we're sorry, we'll work hard to ensure it never happens' again isn't good enough. The parents have been found guilty and rightly so but somebody on the teams that are supposed to protect these children has to be held accountable.
     
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    My daughter is at university training to become one so I have no axe to grind with the workers on the coal face. Like you say it is the middle management, and in my opinion, the politically correct senior management that I believe are failing.
     

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