This Patrick Cryne hero to zero thing........

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  1. tobyornottoby

    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    Did he not stump up the cash to keep us afloat?

    Was he competing with any other mogul to sort out our finances and stabilise the club?

    Does he pick the team?

    Has he picked a manager that we all initially thought was hopeless?

    Has he avoided picking many a manager that we all thought was hopeless?

    Has he milked the funds? Used it as a cash cow?

    Has he liberally sacked managers in circumstances where the majority thought it was a gash decision?

    Has he showed less patience committment or understanding than your average football chairman?

    Has he hidden away, been aloof or failed to answer the hard questions about what has happened at The Well?

    Does he not want the same thing on the pitch as you or I?

    Has he sent me a fiver to post this?
     
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    Well who is to blame then ?

    You make a good point or two that can't really be argued with BUT and its a big one ,who is to blame ?

    A great fan base for the division , a great ' real' stadium ,an academy set up by previous owners that is arguably one of the better ones .

    There's something wrong and just because Mr Cryne stumped the money up in the first place doesn't mean that the internal running is in meltdown.

    Something needs to change and obviously manager or head coach now to be precise doesn't seem to work

    So you tell me,what's wrong with BFC
     
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    Will supertyke give him any benefit of his doubt?
     
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    I see an interesting parallel here, money buys him kudos, but its worth remembering that generosity is giving something you can't do without. Many fans at Coventry tonight will have made a bigger financial sacrifice in relative terms then our "benefactor", yet people defend cryne's decisions as beyond reproach yet slag off Fans for their gallows humour. Some perspective needed me thinks.
     
  6. tobyornottoby

    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    We need drive in midfield. That's what's wrong. According to me.

    Blame is nasty. Don't do that. We have no divine right to win.

    Does every supporter with a bigger stadium/fan base etc. have a divine right to win?

    We got rid of Hill / Flicker despite them keeping us in a higher league.

    A drop down a league would have been curtains for them. We took it on the chin with Danny. Hill / Flicker would have served us better down here, had we not been so superior as to think that we were Championship ordained.

    Now in league terms we seem to be half way round the Grand National, at the rear, with a young amateur jockey. Whom we must encourage to drive on towards the finish.
     
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    Cryne is a hero.

    There's no one man done more for Barnsley FC than he. Perhaps with the exception of John Dennis.

    Not Danny Wilson, not Neil Redfearn.

    When the chips were down - and they were down, baby - he rescued us. As ***** as we are, were it not for him, we'd probably be playing Conference North football in a tarted-up park somewhere, and we'd not be able to complain how dreadful it is to be stuck in the League One relegation zone.

    Patrick Cryne is a hero. There's no question about that in my mind.

    Does that make him perfect? No. Does that mean he hasn't make mistakes? No. Does that absolve him of responsibility for where we are now? No.

    I feel bad for pointing out that he's at least partly-responsible for what's going on at the minute, but he is. He wants it to work, I want it to work, but his contribution is millions, and mine's the price of a season ticket. If he feels thousands of times worse than I do tonight, I get that.

    As a club, we're lower than a Sheffield United fan singing about Ched Evans raping women. How do you weigh what Patrick Cryne has done for us when he (definitively, and unarguably) saved us, but, having done so, is perhaps taking us out of existence, anyway?

    It's like deliberately saving the girl in Donkey Kong, and then running her over with a double-decker bus. Accidentally.
     
  8. tobyornottoby

    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    "It's like deliberately saving the girl in Donkey Kong, and then running her over with a double-decker bus. Accidentally"

    Being aged 56, but by a month still being younger than JLWbigLil, I am on the border of life before this bad run.

    I would like to think PC saved the girl.

    I still do not get how he himself thereafter mowed her down.

    He only hires the driver.
     
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    1) Yes.

    2) No idea. I'm not a club insider so only know what we were told. I'd assume no.

    3) No idea as i'm not a club insider but i'd assume no.

    4) Yes plenty over the years. Now we go down the head coach route instead of having a manager and he's picked someone else who appears hopeless.

    5) No.

    6) Yes.

    7) He's not our chairman.

    8) No.

    9) I'm not a mind reader but would assume yes.

    10) Again i'm not a mind reader but I reckon he won't have sent you a cash bung for this thread praise.
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a mathematician but I think you got lost in your numerical answers somewhere
     

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