Thursday's Racism Thread

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  1. Mid

    Mido Well-Known Member

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    We've not had a post on racism in over 3 hours, a new BBS record. I'm here to end it though...

    Is it racist to call a person from Japan a Jap? I've just fallen out with the bird over it. I say it's not, it's just an abbreviation like Brit, or Scot. She says it's racist and is offensive. It wasn't said in a derogatory manner, just a simple shortening of Japanese to Jap.

    Who's right?
     
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    Is she from Japan? If so then I'd take her side.
     
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    Don't know, I would have said not but I was told using Paki rather than Pakistani IS racist.

    Who knows? I guess it depends on who you're speaking to.
     
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  4. Mid

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    No she's not haha!! It was said in her seminar today and the tutor gave the girl a b0llocking apparently, which I said was out of order.
     
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    "the bird" Lol.
     
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    I missed that completely. Pah, call myself PC?
     
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    She probably won't be if she reads this!!
     
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    depends on the connotation. i would say paki is definitely racist, as it's almost always used in a derogatory context. probably in the same way as spic and kraut are generally used negatively. whereas scot, aussie, brit, yank etc are really just harmless, friendly abbreviations to refer to where someone comes from.

    i must say, if was ever to refer to a japanese person, i wouldn't refer to them as a jap. probably a negative, as it was a war time term and used not very nicely! i don't think we have a close enough association with japanese society, to use 'jap' in a friendly way
     
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    I think it is seen as racist as it was used as a derogatory term by the Americans in WW2 and hasn't IMO been rehabilitaed as an acceptable abbreviation since then. Watch any US film about the Pacific campaign from the 50's onwards; "Those damn Japs" etc

     
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    Old boy who is a customer of mine was in Burma during the war. Calls the Japanese far worse.
     
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    My Grandad always used to say 'nip' when refering to the Japenese.

    Still not 100% sure why.
     
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    Nippon.
     
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    Aren't they also known as "Nips"? Abbreviation from Nippon, the name for Japan that Japanese people use?
     
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    Why Nippon though?

    Did it have a significant roll in the WWII?
     
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    Nippon is how the Japanese pronounce 'Japan' which if I recall stems from a Chinese version of their name for the island.
     
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    I'm sure you ll get a mixed bag on this. If you play guitar your a guitarist, if you kick a ball about your a footballer ,if your from japan your Japanese if you stick your **** up a fellas ass your a ******, so on and so forth
     
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    Learn something new every day.

    Cheers, mate.
     
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    unless you're from the Isle of Man. then you're just his brother
     
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    Poms and Limeys.

    Are us Brits the victims of racism when the Aussies and Americans refer to us as such?

    I wouldn't have said so before but if we are now so overly sensitive towards others then I would suggest that both Pom and Limey are deeply offensive and should be banned in common usage.
     
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    May not be specifically racist but I think it is derogatort and I wouldn't use it.
     
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