To all those who didn't vote BNP.

It's your fault that other people voted BNP. So there!</p>

Or something like that. (clown) </p>

 

They are, in a way. This is how i see it - the BNP have gained seats partly because the other parties do not seem to have what is obviously one of the major issues in this country, immigration, high on their priority list. And it obviously is a major issue for a significant percentage of the electorate (in certain areas) as that is why BNP have been popular, because they target this issue exclusively. So rather than everybody bleating about it and then burying their heads in the sand again they should start listening to this ever increasing voice. Rather than this reaction of calling 'racist' everytime the immigration issue is mentioned maybe the other parties need to start considering what this large minority are obviously getting at, we need to tighten our borders, its becoming a tad overcrowded.

And besides the large majority of people who didn't vote BNP didn't vote at all, so they kind of are to blame.

 

The reason why immigration is an issue is

because people in power are quite happy to have a low-wage economy. That seems to go for all the major parties. Immigrants coming in and working for low pay are a symptom of this not the cause. As long as people are sucked into thinking that it's the immigrants fault then that deflects the attention away from the real problem.

 

RE: The reason why immigration is an issue is

Real problem? All part of the same problem. Too many being allowed to come here has maybe driven the low-wage economy. Chicken or egg?

 

No, capitalism drives the low wage economy... nt

 

capitalism is rubbish....

it's very design means that people will suffer and people will go bankrupt. it's a system which requires people being screwed over.

maybe it's time to turn to a resource based economy.

sounds daft, but just make everything free. you'll always have lazy people who won't do anything - but how much research and progress is stifled by lack of funding? those who wish to pursue sciences, art, medicine, discovery, whatever would stil do so - it's in our genes.

there is enough food, resources and space for everyone on the planet to have a good standard of living - unfortunately too many people have a vested interest in this money stuff.

 

Someone with some sense at last

 

Is there enough food, resources

and space for everyone on the planet to have a good standard?

I thought we were well past the carrying capasity for the species.

 

Another thing that upsets people is that economic migrants enter the country illegally/legally and have to be housed and because of the way the housing points system works because the have large families they go to the top of the housing lists leap-frogging english/british tax payers who dont breed like rabbits

 

Or rather

They focus on a few cases that do.
And never think about all those immigrants working on low incomes propping up the British economy. Most Brits have become wealthier over the last few years because of cheap immigrant workforce.

 

RE: The reason why immigration is an issue is

Immigration isn’t just about low wages; its also about how we give everything away for free to everybody who asks. We must be the softest country in the world when it comes to the welfare state and the NHS. Soft for those who have put **** all in and don’t intend to (this is not exclusive to immigrants before people cry racist). Hard and unfair to those who have worked hard, broke their balls for this country and then need something back. When that happens you've no chance. The UK - a haven and paradise for spongers, the sick, lame and lazy and those who have no interest in patriotism. Is it any wonder people are turning to extremist parties.

 

RE: Or rather

How have 'most' Brits become wealthier because of a cheap immigrant workforce ?

 

Over the past few years...

most Brits have become wealthier (do you dispute that?)
Amongst economists there is general agreement that much of the success of the British economy has been built on the back of cheap immigrant workforce.
There is less agreement on the exact figures involved. But no one credibly believes immigrants have been a net drain on our economy. They have been a drain on local schools and housing etc, but that's a problem of distribution. And yes, I think the main parties have failed to address this and the BNP have benefited from this failing.

 

That's what those in power want you to believe.

The fact is the ones in power are the ones who benefit from a low wage economy and whilever the low earnersare squabbling amongst themselves then they won't be bothering those with all the cash.</p>

Bailoutthebankerswithtaxpayersmoneystastic!</p>

 

I don't believe most brits have become wealthier over the past few years.

As a resurgent Conservative Party now loves to point out, after 11 years of Labour government the gap between rich and poor is at its widest in at least 50 years and continues to broaden. Data from the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) shows that while the real income of the very rich continued to grow last year, the poorest 20 percent in Britain saw their incomes fall. Worse, the chasm between the haves and have-nots is no easier to cross. Social mobility is lower in Britain than in any other developed nation, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. A 2007 report from an independent research group found that children born in 1970 were less likely to have climbed the economic ladder than their counterparts in the late '50s, and there's no sign of improvement in recent years.</p>

Btw that's cut and pasted before the board muppet starts bleating.</p>

 

RE: That's what those in power want you to believe.

Nothing to do with what the people in power tell me. I'm speaking from personal experience. The priorities in this country are obscene.
The phrase "the closest safe country" is pretty sensible. If you're genuinely running for your life then get yourself to the closest safe country. If you want everything for nothing and a government that will fall over themselves to wipe your arse at the expense of hard working tax payers then head for the UK.

 

RE: That's what those in power want you to believe.

Very true. After watching the Border Force series it's unbelievable how these asylum seekers risk life and limb to get from France to the UK. We're like a pot of honey for them at the end of the rainbow. How many countries have these people passed through to reach the cash cow that is Britain?

 

RE: Over the past few years...

I would hazard a guess that most Brits are wealthier but not because of cheap migrant labour.</p>Economic migrants are one tiny aspect of a nation's economy. It's a pity that in order to try and counter racism the lie has been accepted that the UK economy would collapse without this 'cheap' foreign labour.


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The BNP aren't actually popular anywhere though.

It's all a bit exaggerated in my opinion.</p>

With the state of the economy at the moment I'm pleasantly surprised the far right didn't do better than it did.</p>

 

RE: Over the past few years...

I agree with you that - It's a pity that in order to try and counter racism the lie has been accepted that the UK economy would collapse without this 'cheap' foreign labour.

But I never claimed it would collapse without it. Just that we have benefited more than we have lost out as a nation.