To the bleeding heart liberal lobby on this board

You are in a minority. The majority of us are all for fairness for hard working British people.

But the nonsense put forward by the bleeding heart liberals and especially those in positions of influence is playing into the hands of the far right in our country.

They have a lot to answer for. I am of the firm belief that the majority of the users of this board and the majority of the people in our country think you are talking nonsense.

I hope more of us will learn to stand up to you without falling into the traps of the fascists along the way.

 

You silly little boy nt

 

excuse me? nt

 

Well said.

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The posers and parasites won't like it but I can't see much wrong with any of that.</p>

 

I am for fairness for all peoples...not just some...

arbitarty notion of British people. What makes those lucky enough to be born here more deserving of "fairness" than a person born in say Rwanda

Political Correctness doe snot have a place in a normal society, neither does the far right or extreme capitalism.

The majority of immigrant that comes here wishes to work and improve their lot in life. As such they are not my enemy. My enemy is the Barstewards who make money from suffering, war and total greed.

 

New Labour - bleeding heart Liberals???!!!!

Seriously? Surely you mean centre/centre right and at massvie push centre left???

 

RE: I am for fairness for all peoples...not just some...

The majority agree with you Redstar. We would like to see fairness the world over with everyone getting the same opportunities etc. Unfortuunately we in Britain have limited control over the rest of the world and everyone cannot live with us.
We must strive for a better world, but foremost we must strive to make better what we can influence and control and that is life within Britian.

 

RE: New Labour - bleeding heart Liberals???!!!!

I did not say that. But there are large numbers of such people who are in positions of influence and completely out of touch with the majority.

They continue to deny this fact at the peril of our country, playing into the hands of the far right!

 

RE: New Labour - bleeding heart Liberals???!!!!

But don't UKIP play in to the hands of the far right by preaching an anti-immigration message but those who are convinced are the disaffected and the disaffected prefer the BNP's message? Surely an anti-immigration message quickly becomes loat in an anti-immigrant message?

 

Thanks Windy

I agree there is a vocal minority that will try to portray me as 'Litttle Englander' or even a racist. It seems they are happy to sneer and insinuate that they are some how better informed than any person who opposes their views and we are simply ignorant.

It is time for the reasonable people to tell them where to go and tell the fascists where to go too!

 

GREAT BRITAIN! what about the 700 000 or so who are on incapacity benefits? think we all know at least one, bad back, depression etc... what about the scumbag ill educated chavs roaming our estates, exhibiting learned behaviours from their ill educated oafish parents? what about the smackheads who rob rob rob? rather have a hard working zimbabwean, or whatever living next door to me!! this country is ruined, ship all the wasters out and welcome in those who are inclined to industry and common decency!

 

anyone who critises the immigration policy of the uk is classed as racist. thought you'd know that!

 

i'm no bleeding heart liberal, whatever one of those is supposed to be. (funny how names for those with any form of social consience (sp?) are rather childish) but i do believe in social justice.

funny how, in a nation built on imigration, all of a sudden just because imigrants seem to be more 'noticeable' they become some sort of pariah. interesting.

i wonder how many of your ancestors made that short trip across the english channel in years gone by? the reason we have the problems we have now is people ghettoising imigrants, treating them as second class citizens.

if the majority of those in places of influence were these so called loony left, don't you think we'd have a much fairer society by now?

and as for talk of majority and minority, just look at the music charts, just look at what are the most popular tv shows and which so called newspapers sell the best. unfortunately, the dumming down has been going on for years. ignorance breeding prejudice and all that.

gets on tin hat and sips lovely cup of tea. yummy.

ooh, anyone seen zeitgeist? great stuff. even if a tenth of it is the truth, everyone should be worried. (oh and the time of the video is in minutes not seconds, dearies)

 

RE: New Labour - bleeding heart Liberals???!!!!

No. I absolutely oppose the slur that you are making. A dirty trick! To oppose the reduction of democracy and the creation of a global super bureaucracy is in no way racist or anti immigrant!!

This country needs immigrants and we are lucky that we have a country which is great and that people like to move to for a better life.

To oppose further removal of our sovereignty and to oppose the movement of power away from the individual is not anti immigrant.

This country welcomes immigrants, we are nation of immigrants and we can live and work and move forward to a better future together. To oppose the gradual movement to dictatorship is not right wing!

 

They think they have the monopoly on anti-fascism.

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What they consistently fail to see in themselves is the intellectual fascism with which they dismiss others.</p>

 

Havanna

it is us the majority that are in agreement with you. People should work and be rewarded for what they put in. Race or origin has nothing to do with this.

 

There are many forms of social conscience.

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Some ridiculously naive.</p>

You don't help the poor and weak by becoming one of them.</p>

 

yes exactly. The majority of us do have social conscience. We believe in the NHS in the minimum wage, in providing for the poor when they fall on hard times, in providing a haven to those from around the world in their time of need.

Perhaps my use of the term is 'bleeding heart liberal' is misleading. What I have listed above is what the majority of the British public believe in.

The people I oppose are those that say....'we are nation of immigrants...immigration should be limitless...' 'I don't see why there should be any controls on immigration...' 'prison should not be about punishment it s all about rehabilitation....' etc. All has been said on this board and it is nonsense!

 

But the majority of people do not seperate the two

And the BNP feel that you take a chunk of their vote from them becuase of your anti-European method. Fair enough if you personally aren't anti-immigration but plenty in UKIP are and your main aim is a cause celebre of the far right. There are few who can seperate your message of anti-Europe out from anti-immigration and given that your place at the table is as a Tory-pressure group potential supports revert to BNP who also preach anti-Europe yet sadly win seats

 

eh?

there's plenty of wealth in this country. unfortunately, the system is stacked in favour of those who have it.

you try not paying your taxes and see what happens. then look at these so called non-doms and those with creative accountants.

the amount of revenue lost to tax evasion and avoidance dwarfs what we pay out in benefits.

i think we should take a (small) leaf out the middle ages. the old generations long projects like cathedral building, except improving infrastructure, building things useful to society. there's enough money to pay for it, and it could give work for tens of thousands of people for years to come. and a vocation. and a sense of purpose, creating something that will last, and in the future be a symbol of britain. none of the rubbish thrown up these days, that'll last what, 50 to a 100 years if were lucky.

full of ideas, me. unfortunately just not very good ones.