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  1. driver

    driver New Member

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    Heard loads on the way out saying mostto had a right game. I have been one trying to stay positive about him. But today just wasn't good enough for me. He looks out of his depth. He has a decent touch, can pick out a decent pass, but doesn't seem to have his head around the game. When we attack with pace, he heads wide, instead of looking for the ball through to goal. When he doesn't have the ball, he just seems to stand there pointing and gesticulating to other players, while not actually making a run for the ball himself. Looked knackered. Hope ferenczi is back soon.
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    I though odejayi had a better game. Trying to make something for himself, winning plenty of headers and making a nuisance of himself. Although yet again, when things started going against him, he disappeared. Although unlike last week, he pulled himself through and re-appeared to put more effort in late on.</p>

    I blame the first half on davey. Nobody had an idea what was going on, or where they should be. Can't understand the formation, it stopped us attacking from wide, and left them clear through on the full backs to attack us. Much better when we switched back to 442.</p>

    Devaney came on, looked rubbish, gave the ball away with his first 5 touches. Howard, looks like he is trying too hard, doesn't look as comfortable as last season.</p>

    Foster, player of the season without a doubt. Doesn't look out of place anywhere across the back. Top player, and a bargain.</p>

    Togwell, thought he kept us up last season, but passing is miles off, shows how much we miss da silva.</p>

    Coulson, changed the game. Premature to say big things about him, but looks to have got much stronger than last season, actually tried to attack players, and was looking for goal. Keep it up, and will make the breakthrough, because looked to offer much more that the current lot. Just hope its not a flash in the pan.</p>

    Any more? Letheran, looked scared shitless, but ended up making some decent stops, and has a good long range kick for clearing danger.</p>
     
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    agree with most of what you say. but honestly think mossto will come good. macken had a "good touch" and was bigged up on here without scoring and then suddenly he started to score. same will happen with mossto. Hopefully. Where was Leon today? thought he was due to play some part and do things with a football not even simon davey can do... what is that? pass, shoot, dribble, cross???
     
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    I've been hoping mostto will come good for ages, and his touch and passing impresses me.</p>

    But his basic attacking instinct seems wrong. Goalscorers attack the ball in the box, mostto either looks too knackered and is stood pointing, or is somewhere out wide. He was supposed to be the 'fox in the box'. But he never has the ball in the box to do any damage.
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  4. BFC

    BFCFan4Life Well-Known Member

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    Apart from a great header that went just wide, no, he maybe didn't get in the box enough. But when a simple pass would play you through on goal and Grant McCann dillies and dallies until a defender can run 30 yards to tackle you, you'd lose heart.
     
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    This great header that you've mentioned a number of times

    Was that the one that was planted right on his head, six yards out, and he missed?
     
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    exactly. did mostto ever play when anderson did? i cant remember. but, im sure the two would get along, if you know what i mean...as in through balls etc.
     
  7. Loko the Tyke

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    Wasn't it Mostto that kept Howards awful corner in that led to the goal?

    And didn't he, on two occassions, track back 70 yards to make covering tackles?

    Probably was knackered in the second half due to a complete lack of first team football and only half a pre-season.

    Our strikers are living off scraps from the midfield at the moment, Togwell doesn't have the range Anderson did, JCR rarely delivers quality, McCann often doesn't look good enough, Disco is completely off the boil, and Howard is trying to hard (apparantley).

    Unless our strikers 'make a nuisance' of themselves, we just don't seem to create.
     
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    RE: This great header that you've mentioned a number of times

    Thought it is was more than 6 yards, but that is the chance I was led to believe he would bury. So disappointing. At least he was in shooting position, rest of game he was looking out wide, completely away from the danger area.
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  9. Jay

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    And yet

    Coulson made a great run, Howard made the pass, ball in the back of the net. Easy peasy.
     
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    Okay....rant time.

    6 yards out? Yeah okay. Obviously I'm younger than you and my eyesight's better than yours.

    Unless the 6 yard box now extends a lot further out than 6 yards.

    I'm just frustrated with Barnsley fans in general on here to be honest. People might think I'm over-optimistic and over-patient, but the negativity that gets spouted on here week in, week out, no matter the result, no matter the performance, is absolutely pathetic. Not just on here, at the game too. If the bloke behind me had his way, we'd have had no players left on the pitch at the end. &quot;Boo, gerr'im off.&quot; Singing &quot;You're not singing anymore&quot; at them when all the Barnsley fans had done all game was open their mouths to boo the team off at halftime? Just think its infuriating. Maybe I'm showing him too much support. But so far on here today he's been criticised for being offside when he was 2 yards onside, criticised for complaining when being thrown to the ground, and criticised for never being in the box when, aside from the 2 goals, he was the only person in our team who actually had a shot from inside the box. Theres only him and Howard, within reason, out of our starting lineup who looked willing to shoot. Campbell-Ryce does too, but that invariably means him shooting from an insane position.

    I think he'll come good. And considering the absolute cr*p that gets posted on here by people randomly taking digs at our ex-manager over nothing comments in an interview, to talk about Oldham players who we know and who are great, or discussing which footballers have gay haircuts, I think I'm entitled to have an opinion on a striker who's showing potential in a country he has no experience of. I think he played well, you don't. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. But the negativity on here about anything and everything is beyond fathom.</p>

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    RE: And yet

    First attempt at it, first goal.

    Class players can turn games, which Howard did. Unfortunately are midfield isn't blessed with enough class now Anderson has gone. Anderson back, Leon on the left, Disco and JCR playing for the right midfield birth.

    Then we might have a different story.
     
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    I have slagged mostto

    But yet I have to agree, with the bizarre first half formation, mostto ended up saving us with some defending cover at right midfield/fullback. Davey to blame for that weird situation, but it doesn't stop mostto standing still, while gesticulating wildly for the ball to be knocked forward, and him making no attempt to get forward. He looks seriously unfit at points in the game.
     
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    hee hee nt
     
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    RE: This great header that you've mentioned a number of times

    Again correct me if I'm wrong coz I wasn't actually at the game, but was he constantly out wide because we had a 3 man midfield that wouldn't know the meaning of the word width?

    With our normal wingers attacking down the flanks with the full backs overlapping, do you think Mostto would have still made those runs?

    I don't believe so.
     
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    Gesticulating wildly? He was probably wondering why Howard spent the entire game shouting at him for no apparent reason - and the rest of the team for that matter.

    Howard played well today - was the driving force when we had the ball, and thank god. If he'd played badly and played 5-10 more bad passes, one of his teammates would have ended up punching him with the way he was blaming them for everything.
     
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    I agree entirely

    But I still don't think Odejayi and Mostto would score many goals.
     
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    To be fair, thats the response I expected.
     
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    no idea about howard shouting for no reason, but howard has been relatively poor all season. Most of his goals from penalties, he looks to do too much every time. I can't understand how people talk so well of howard, and there is the 3million talk, I would snatch their hands off at owt over 750k, if we could swap for da silva + cash, then take it now.
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    Oh come on

    Winding people up is half the fun. If you can do it right. :)

    Read my response to Johnnycoachman's comments on Ritchie if you want to see a more serious answer.
     
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    RE: This great header that you've mentioned a number of times

    &gt; With our normal wingers attacking down the flanks with the full backs overlapping, do you think Mostto would have still made those runs?</p>

    Normally I would agree, and the formation didn't help. But still we had plenty of counter attacks where players made the run, and he should have looked for the ball in behind the defence. But he either didn't make the run at all, or went stupidly wide. I felt like many years ago at grimsby with half the crowd pointing left, while the winger aimed for the corner flag. Shiite.</p>
     

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