Two political questons.

After reading the debate on the BNP

1.Does wanting a stricter immigration policy make you a racist?

2.Do people become more right wing as they get older?

 

No and usually nt

 

no and I have nt

 

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1) No.</p>

2) That's an interesting one. Wisdom and experience replacing naive ideology? They won't like it.</p>

 

1. no.
2. more reluctant to accept change.

 

1. No
2. Not necessarily, but more likely to have wider ranging views than entirely left or right wing.

 

1. No</p>

2. Well we all have to grow up sometime.</p>

 

Actually to number 2

Probably, you become ground down by the system, lose the idealism and start to think "**** that, what's in it for me?"

 

Take Citizen Hartog for example

A committed socialist as a younger man, but then he got his own business and saw how much tax he was having to pay and suddenly he couldn't suck the right-wing man's **** fast enough.

 

1. no, i want the jobless wasters that were born here throwing out and showing how lucky they were in the UK

2. probably

 

Bang on.

It's not tax I object to per se. Ooh get me. But rather this Government's spending of it and their priorities.</p>

We can find all the money we want to fund a war in Iraq and Afghanistan which imho neither have achieved any benefit to the UK or made the world a safer place. Yet we can't decently recompense the poor sods coming back from the war maimed. Nor can we ensure that pensioners can afford basics such as heating.</p>

We can fund a mass expanse of the public sector payroll in non-frontline jobs yet it depends where you live as to whether or not you'll get the latest drugs to help fight cancer.</p>

All very naive of me I know, but it just fcks me right off.</p>

 

joined at the hip mate

.... fecking scarey 'n' all !!!!</p>

You should see the way the Inland Revenue has been 'modernised'.*</p>

*Read as 'all the people who know what they we doing but were a bit expensive got rid of and replaced by call centre dummies who know **** all about tax and you have to wait 20 minutes to talk to them'</p>

 

Ah but....

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...if 2) was the case then surely they wouldn't get more anything.</p>

av still gorrit</p>

 

Australia's View

Before christmas my companys Australian office sent over3 project c o ordinators to visit a number of sites we have business in in Yorkshire. When visiting Bradford and Dewsbury the y were flabergasted at the 5 diffirent languages on hospital signs in both Bradford and Dewsbury, on of the guys is married to a lady from Nigeria and is by far the most non racist person you could meet,
The questions asked were as we are now into 3rg generation Asian immigrants surely there should now be only English on the signs, secondly whats the cost of this service.
They stated that in Australia there is no pre requsite for immigrants, it is a stipulation on citizen ship that they HAVE to learn English at there cost.
Is this right or is this wrong bearing in mind if you decided to live in Germany, France , Russia, logically the first thing you do is learn the language.

 

RE: joined at the hip mate

My only dealings with HMCE and the IR are through the accountant.</p>

I have enough dealing with the NHS at Primary Care Trust level - now, if you want to see an organisation that is purely a job creation machine and struggles to justify its existence that's your one. The next time it's in the Chronicle about the NHS can't afford this/can't afford that, they should look at how money goes through PCT's to 'purchase' services and how many layers of management with assistants and 'officers' there are within. All on extremely good salaries - teachers were the subject of scrutiny on here for salaries of &pound;35k-ish. Ask a PCT director what they earn. Then ask them what they actually do.</p>

 

was once working away in 1992

... and in the hotel I got chatting to anNHSmanager. Next day four of them weregoing to suss out the purchase of settees for hospital waiting rooms.I asked why four people were needed and I didn't get ananswer.

 

RE: was once working away in 1992

Then when they returned they'd have had to have a meeting about it and maybe got an assistant to write a 3 page memo for circulation around the organisation about settee management. From the feedback questionnaire attached then a further series of meetings would have been needed ( all with clerical support ) to prioritise the requirements of the settee. Then that wouyld have been typed up and circulated to all managers/directors and they would be asked to set up training courses on cushion management and stain removal.</p>

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To be fair many representatives of minority groups believe that we shouldn't offer literature etc in other languages for the very reason that it does discourage integration. However, in somewhere like a hospital where not understanding the language it might be good to have signs in different languages? Not saying thats right be may be why. Also to be fair when we go abroad as a nation we generally complain if the menu's not in English - and we don't even live there!

 

RE: Australia's View

I think that you should definitely learn English.

 

Joking aside...

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...that's probably bang on.</p>