Unsure of what we should do with Davey

Really not sure what we should do. I've always defended Davey, often more than he desrves, mainly because of the ludicrous nature of some of the statements against him. Davey has made lots of mistakes and there are lots of things he can legitimately be criticised for. however, statements like he is the worst manager we've ever had or evidently not true. Also, saying he is stubborn only comes from people who don;t agree with his point of view, who are therefore themselves being stubborn.

I think he has had a generally poor season. I think within that he has been incredibly unlucky and the players have also let him down. That said I think over three years he has done a decent job and history may judge him better than he is at present.

The biggest single issue to me seems to be and has been all season the relationship with the fans. Clubs that don't pull in the same direction are not successful. I agree that it is a two way street but as part of that we have a role to play. If we stick with Davey we have to give him the opportunity, but I don't think he will get it which does not reflect well on us. If we won the first 10 games of next season i think people would still be there criticising and waiting to jump on his and the teams back as soon as we only drew.

Do I think he should be sacked, haven't decided yet. If he's there next season will I get behind him and the team, definately yes.

 

I'm the same as you

Keep changing my mind on him. Glad I don't have to decide tbh.

 

He is stubborn,

And the only other manager i have seen in a press conference at Barnsley who was both arrogant and Stubborn other than Davey was Paul Hart

 

I think Davey's relationship with the fans is what concerns Patrick Cryne the most. I don't think he would be reviewing his position at all if it wasn't for the stirring of discontent towards the end of the season. He knows he needs to be seen to be taking the fans views seriously. No manager who falls out with the fans lasts long.

 

But aren't there sections of the fans who had it in for him from day one? nt

 

RE: He is stubborn,

Is that all you have got to say?

If he is so stubborn then why didn't he carry on playing 4-5-1 until the end of the season. He eventually took the criticism on board and played 4-4-2. He tried something, it didn't really work. If next season we turn up playing 4-5-1 then that's a different matter completely.

 

RE: But aren't there sections of the fans who had it in for him from day one? nt

Yep. Some didn't give him a chance at all because he was perceived as the cheap option.

 

I just think with Davey he probably feels he can't do anything right. when we lose its his fault, when we win its becuase of the players. To me thats just wrong. it can't be one when it suits and the other when it doesn't. That must irk anyone and consequently i imaginehe doesn't have a lot of time for the fans. maybe thats wrong but to some extent understandable

 

A relationship with the fans is key

One of the things that riled me most this season was his failure to do an interview after the Swansea game. After a performance like that, at that stage of the season, he didn't step up to the plate and face the questions. Instead, we had a wall of silence from him from about 4 or 5 days.

What then made it worse was that Ryan Kidd then came out with the crappy excuse about them being tired after the trip back from Watford.

Also, think back to last season and the unexplained issues with Christensen and Andy Johnson. Davey purchases suddenly shut out with no explanation other than hearsay with fans quite rightly wondering why we're paying wages for them to do nothing.

These are just a couple of examples, but there are many others where he's totally failed to get the fans onside and he has no-one to blame for this but himself. More positive experiences, such as the reaction to the Hume challenge are sadly few and far between

 

He was perceived as the crap option when his last game as caretaker manger was the diabolical shambles against Wednesday which led to 1575 AM reporters after the match saying something along the lines of well at least he's not going to be manager, and the next day he was confirmed as manager.

 

No choice but to keep him, he's the man to lead us to the top.

We got rid of Hart and just look what he's doing now.

If Cryne sent Davey down the Saint Andy route it would show just how weak he is giving in to a few fans who think we should be in the Prem.

 

I am really getting pissed off at your continued digs at Andy Ritchie

You are the only person that still cares about him . What happened did he shag your dog ????????

This thread is about Simon Davey, not Ritchie. So leave it like that.

 

Think we should be in the Prem?

No, but would hope to be again one day and fecking fed up of Davey and his acolytes at the club like Nob Rnowles perpetuating the myth that staying up is a miracle for a club of our size.

If I was PC, I'd be wabting SD to justify his position and explain what his "vision for BFC" is. Cos to me it seems he does not have one....

 

To be fair I think Davey is ambitious and does have ambitions for the club. I think the problem is in translating it in to reality

 

Does he?

Pat Cryne seemed unconvinced of that...

 

Unsure what to do about PC's statement!!

I don't see how Davey's position is tenable in the light of the statement. It implies that Davey does not have PC's confidence and that has implications for his relationships with the playing and coaching staff. Is PC seeking a cheap way to terminate Davey's period of office - ie hoping that he will resign? If PC feels strongly enough to issue a press statement like this, I am not sure why he did not just dismiss him. How can he possibly continue?

 

I'm not sure he is unsure of it, I think his main issue is around the club being able to move forward unless everyone is pulling in the same direction.

I think siginings like De Silva, Colace, Hammil, Teymourian and Hume do show ambition. He is trying to bring in ball playing midfielders and in patches we have knocked the ball around well. The problem is that isn't translating into long periods of games. I think his vision would be passing midfielders and fast wingers which i think i what we all want to see. the problem is we got dragged in to a relegation battle and that went out the window in the grab for points

 

I have thought along those lines...

perhaps a change in job role is on the cards for SD?

 

But...

when he has dropped the fear like at Plymouth away and Wolves at home for 85 minutes we look a better side without the additional plodder in midfiled. Two plodders is Colace and Andranik make for a dull uninspiring midfield.

 

Never in a month of Sundays mate

Simon Davey will be manager next season, he will come out and give some flannel then Cryne will say to the fans that he has talked with Davey band he is convinced that Davey can take us forward, he will take another briefcase full of dossiers in to the meeting and bluff his way through.