viewing Barnsley World on a mac (again) help please?

Has anyone got any suggestions on how to view Barnsley World content on a mac?
I'm quite willing to subscribe but need to know if it is possible to run either video or audio to make it worthwhile.
Any help would be welcome,
Thankyou

 

any experts out there?

 

Don't fancy your chances

The new Digital Media Rights stuff'll stuff you up. Think Cazi posted to that effect last week. Or check out the FAQ on the site.

 

You got Bootcamp?

Partition your mac and dual boot to Windows. Or try Parallels. Not seen a Windows program yet that won't run on a mac using either of these. The new Leopard OS is shipping with Bootcamp (October-ish?)

 

Great thanks

I'll check out these options

 

Partition your mac and dual boot to Windows. . . Not seen a Windows program yet that won't run . . .

So, not seen a Windows app that won't run on Windows . . ?

Am I missing something here?

(there should be a smiley here but I'm sworn off them)

 

Er....?

You might well be.

 

Possibly

But if you dual-boot a machine to run an OS, then isn't that partition running that OS? So wouldn't you expect it to run that OS's apps?

 

RE: Possibly

Yes but it means you could, in theory, view BW on a mac, which was the original question.

 

Indeed.

Sorry for the sarcasm. I'd kind of assumed the issue was running Barnsley World on Mac OS, rather than re-configuring a Mac to run Windows. This kind of thing always seems to defeat the object to me. "I love my mac so much I have to get it to boot into Windows to do half the stuff I want to do". I'm not anti-Mac as such, it just seems an awful lot of trouble to go to.

 

RE: Indeed.

I completely agree. I can't think of anything offhand that I'd bring from XP to my mac. Certainly not BW!!!

 

I've had plenty of Macs down the years but I'm afraid I now view them as the jackass option. There's less choice of software, compatitibility problems such as this Barnsley World problem, OS9 wasn't stable whatsoever, neither is it easy to use if you want to get into the guts of it. Having a one button mouse is just a disadvantage. PC boxes now come in stylish looks so that's another Mac selling point neutralised. Now Macs are shipping with Intel processors and you can install Windows on them. So what's the point? No, I'm afraid I'd always recommend the Wintel option, sad but true. A Mac is just a premium priced folly.

 

I've got friends who work in graphic design who swear by their Macs and the Mac certainly seems perfect for their stuff. But you have to take the rough with the smooth - it's not a general purpose machine and it won't support half the modern Windows stuff.

 

Oh for sure, there's a lot of 'emperor's new clothes' about macs, but its a no-brainer for video editing an' that. Final Cut is a right little bundle of joy...and even the bundled iMovie (a stripped down FC, if truth be told) is a very classy package.

 

Yes, I think in graphics, DTP and music the Mac is regarded to offer some advantages but I'm sure half of these are perceived rather than practical. I can't see any reason why Macs should be better than PCs for graphics. Do they have exclusive software? Can't think of any. There's Quark for DTP. Does the industry still use this? Apparently the Mac's timing is theoretically better for music but I'm not sure if this has any noticeable effect in practice.

 

Even if they were real benefits, so what?

A specialised chip architecture outperforms a general purpose one in its speciality. Hardly surprising.

It's interesting that you see no practical difference. I've not done much of a practical comparison personally but I'd expect a small inherent benefit to the Mac in these apps which would be outweighed by less support etc. You suggest even less demonstrable difference which it surprising but as said below, Emperor's new clothes . . .

I think the PC is much maligned. It's brought all this to us in our homes, which is a great step forward in the last decade.

 

RE: Cant do it I am afraid

Flip 4 Mac might do the trick

 

RE: You got Bootcamp?

you can download bootcamp now

 

More waffle from your truly

I must admit I have no real experience in things such as video editting. I'll have to take folk's word for it that Final Cut is much better than say Adobe Premiere and After Effects. It's a software thing though because I'm sure today's raw horsepower can make up for a lack of dedicated hardware.

I wonder if the Mac's musical timing advantage is still present now they have gone Intel.

The real mystery was how the awful laughably inadequate Windows 3.1 triumphed over MacOS, Unix, AmigaOS etc. back in the day. No multitasking, hopelessly though out and years behind the rest. But, with the advent of Windows 95, the PC became a usable machine and from then on the open market for developing PC hardware together with the sheer quantity of Windows developers has made it the sensible choice for the general user.

Going back a decade, we used to use Unix workstations to run all our jobs at work (structural analysis) but now Wintel PCs are far cheaper, have the necessary grunt and of course offer all the other Windows niceties that we've come to be familar with.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Microsoft fanatic (I was a confirmed Amiga addict back in the day) and wonder what the chuff they have been up to in the four years between Office 2003 and Office 2007. They seem to have given it a blue theme and moved the menus around a bit. Hardly impressive for such a big company.