Was talking about this the other week on here...

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    Probably a good thing.

    But knowing what this country is like it will probably end up all arse ended!

    I can see science and medical departments closing and media,drama and sociology departments surviving and growing. /poo
     
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    How can it be a good thing?
     
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    well we won't be wasting so much public money on funding meaningless courses!
     
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    We also won't have as many people of working age.
     
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    yes people will have to work longer.
     
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  7. Gue

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    How's that a good thing?
     
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    I meant closing the useless 'universities' would be a good thing. No more than that matey :)
     
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    Universities are among the largest employers in most cities.

    And I don't think any course is really useless.
     
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    Fair enough matey. I happen to disagree very strongly, but this is probably not the best place for the debate.

    Might I be so rude to suggest that you do not look at this from the most impartial position?
     
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    That can be said yes, but I don't really enjoy my job or have much respect for my employer. I just feel that education is a valuable thing.
     
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    I agree.

    Would you agree with me thast man institutions are more concerned with making money? They enroll people onto non academic (micky mouse) courses that are cheap to run. They then close valuable but expensive science departments.
     
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    They have to make money and with the possibility of a drop in funding from the government they are looking into "alternative revenue streams". This can mean bringing in students from overseas and doing dodgy things with results to make sure they pass. With science some universities are investing a lot in the departments as they are graded on research, this can mean that they spend less on people who will actually teach, research can also bring in a lot of money.

    I don't necessarily think that non-academic courses are mickey mouse as a vocational approach can be more valuable. For instance I studied law and followed an academic approach, other universities teach how to practise law. I don't work in a related field but wouldn't say it was a waste of time (it just burdened me with debt for the rest of my life). I studied a non-academic/practical course as a postgraduate (although it did combine academic study with practise). This course is directly applicable to my current work and I would not be able to do my job without it.
     
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    Cheered me up no end, thanks.

    :'(
     
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    Vocational training is very useful

    I totally agree with that and vocational courses are not what I call mickey mouse courses!

    What is needed is to get people off the mickey mouse into either truly academic or vocational courses!
     
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    RE: Vocational training is very useful

    What's a mickey mouse course then? I'm confused.
     
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    david beckham studies
    surfing studies
    golf management

    etc
     
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    yep those kind and the endless combinations of sociology psychology combined type courses.

    I agree vocational courses can be very useful though!!! We need more of them.
    Howver the qualification should not be called a 'degree'. It simply leads to confusion between vocational and academic training!
     
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