He came across as a very decent bloke. He explained that our wage bill is around £8.5 million pounds and the club has to find around £4 million to break even each year which falls on the shoulders of the board and PC. Next season we will be losing 26% of the TV revenue money also which will make a huge dent. Taking into account season ticket prices, 1912 club and the 17 match season ticket deal we were still one of the cheapest clubs to watch in the championship. He explained the club are actively looking for new investment and new owners as PC due to health and the money he has already pumped in cannot carry on much longer. By the way Addison does not cost the club a single penny as he was part of the Shackell deal
Re: Was talking to Don Rowing personally yesterday and I quizzed him about CAT A pric Waste of time posting that. All you will get in response is people saying "make it cheaper and they will put 5,000 on the gate", which has been proven to be complete and utter ********.
Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they dropped a right bollock, they've lost 1500 reds fans
Re: Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they If they realise it why not change it now? Shout it from the rooftops that CAT A is now £23 again. If they know they can't do it next season then they are going to have to re-budge somewhere along the line. £8.5m is ridiculous for a club our size though.
Re: Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they Exactly what I was thinking; £8.5 million on wages is scandalous but doesn't surprise me really - it's just a sign of the state of football and that the problem has spread beyond the premier league.
Re: Was talking to Don Rowing personally yesterday and I quizzed him about CAT A pric Nothing has be proven whatsoever unless you include "if you charge £30 a game you are going to lose supporters" Having the odd cheap game will not bring back the numbers alienated by overpricing.
Re: Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they And there lies the problem. We have to raise the money to pay those wages. If enough people aren't going to come at £20 then the club has to bleed it out of the fans that they know will come. That's all there is to it really.
Re: Was talking to Don Rowing personally yesterday and I quizzed him about CAT A pric What advice would you give The Don to get the crowds of last season back?
Scrap the cat A immediately. be more innovative They're supposed to be the sales marketing experts. Why do people keep fronting the fans not turning up problem on the fans themselves? Fans are customers and potential customers. Heres a novelty, why don't the Sales marketing people at the club work to come up with something original or even copy something from another club thats worked. They just keep doing the same old things.
Re: Scrap the cat A immediately. be more innovative Chill art I'm asking him. Fans of other clubs take a lot of their supporters clubs ideas on board, ain't that part of why we have supporters trusts? Putting ideas amongst other things to the football club?
Re: Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they i disagree and i don't think a £20 concession will do it either.for me a game like bristol when we have been playing pretty well and potential for a goal fest a £5 and£10 entry fee, possibly free entry to youth sports clubs etc would be apporpriate. with a local themed pre match/half time entertainment may have whipped up some enthusiasm for the return of some stayaway supporters to return. all this has been tried near end of season games, waste as far as i'm concerned a game as this could've boosted gate on tuesday and hopefully beyond. at least they could try, if it didn't work what do we lose we wasn't going to make a killing on gate anyway.but the lay down and die so bleed the regulars attitude will alienate more fans.imo
Re: Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they But to make the same revenue as we do with £30 tickets, we've to sell 3 times as many at £10, and 6 times as many at £5. Say there's 7,000 st holders, and 1500 people who purchase match day tickets. To make the same revenue as we would if those 1500 were paying £30, at £10 we'd need a gate of 11,500 and at a fiver we'd need a gate of 16,000, something which simply wont happen i'm afraid. The club are justified in charging what they are, as all they're doing is maximising revenue. It's also something we couldn't do on a regular basis, as ST holders have paid £13 a match (ish) in theory, therefore it's very rare the club charges less than that for matchday tickets. We had a cat C game earlier on in the season, and the gate was 10,500ish which is simply not enough to sustain cheaper tickets on a regular basis. a 9,000 gate at £30 is much better business for the club than an 11,000 gate at £10.
Whenever we've done £5 matches we've filled the ground Easily exceeding the 16,000 needed to make the same money.
Re: Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they Hmm, I see your thinking but we've got approx 8000 ST holders. Let's be generous and say 500 pay on the day fans are coming toda. Not all paying £30 due to club 1912, concessions etc but for the sake of argument let's say that generates £15000. At a tenner I'd wager (and it's guesswork but as far as I can see that's the clubs approach to this...) you'd get 1000 to 1500 extras in, providing we told everyone about it. We'll have to try something because Oakwell is a morgue with 8000 home fans in, and the lack of atmosphere can only hinder our progress. Also the club simply HAS to get closer to its lost fans to try and re-engage with them.
Re: Was talking to Don Rowing personally yesterday and I quizzed him about CAT A pric win games...that was hard wasn't it!!?
Re: Next Season 1 guarantee there won't be 16 x cat a home games - they realise they i don't think we'd make a loss as we,d bring the extra support to counter it but even if we did at least we tried and maybe gained a few extra fans in future games.instead of end of season and hope the'll come back. but if we carry on like this how many pay on day will stop coming, then what next season put season tickets up sharply cos we not making enough then end up with 6000 s/t thats a downward spiral as far as i'm concerned. and if you put fans into cash cow category how many will come down then. imo
The addison comment is bizarre He doesnt cost us anything because he was part of the deal to sell shackell? Of course he chuffing costs us something. If I had a car worth £10k that I was selling and instead somebody offered me 50 quid and a signed picture of Megan Fox's lady garden I wouldnt go round telling people that the picture was free because it wasn't free was it. It cost me £9,999.50 Absolutely ridiculous to say that he doesnt cost us anything. And his comments trying to justify the increase are wide of the mark too and in my opinion just goes to show what is wrong with the club. A poor defeatist attitude that is doing exactly the opposite of what is needed. When there is a shortfall in customers you have two main options. 1. Increase the price to your remaining customers or 2. Try to increase your customer base and bring back the lost customers. BFC are sadly doing option one which is a very very short term solution and doomed to failure. 10,000 customers one year is reduced to 9,000 the year after for whatever reason. Solution? Increase the charge for the remaining 9,000 to cover the shortfall. Next year that 9,000 has dropped to 7,000 due to the price. Solution? Increase the charge to cover the shortfall. Next year the 7,000 has dropped to 4,000 because of the cost. Solution? Increase the charge to cover the shortfall. Next year 4,000 is 3,000 due to cost. Solution? Charge them all a lot more to cover the shortfall. Within 10 years you're down to 3 customers and sooner or later one of them will pull out. You cannot keep accepting the loss of customers and passing the buck onto the remaining few because it wont be long till those few have gone too and you're up **** creek and your paddle is nowhere to be seen.
Re: Was talking to Don Rowing personally yesterday and I quizzed him about CAT A pric Even that won't have much of an impact on our stay away fans. Unless we're in the premier league, playing a big four club or in a play off final they're not interested. No marketing department can tempt plastic fans to watch normal championship league games.
Re: Was talking to Don Rowing personally yesterday and I quizzed him about CAT A pric Yes it is quite hard when you have one of the smallest turnover and transfer budgets. Any other ideas?
Re: Was talking to Don Rowing personally yesterday and I quizzed him about CAT A pric Agreed. Promotion season the crowds only began to increase towards the very end of the season.