We're in trouble big time

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  1. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    We're never going to be able to mount a challenge for promotion without starting the season with a settled squad of decent players, we need to sign players on 2&3 year deals this summer and keep them next summer no matter what we get offered for them, to stand any chance of promotion in the 2015/16 season, we've ripped a decent league one squad apart to fall in line with rules everyone else will just brake, we've dillied and dallied all summer long instead of just going out and signing players on their terms, now we must sign players on decent length contracts and give ourselves a bit of stability and continuity this time next season. Wholesale changes year after year just isn't going to work, we need the core base of the 2015/16 squad putting into place this summer, with next summers out of contract players ether re-signed in January or off loaded. The new players for next summer need to be identified in the run up to the end of the season and signed/ pre signed in the first couple of weeks in may, no fecking about like this summer.
     
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    I had hoped this was the plan all along.
     
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    Best at moment is staying up.

    Most likely second relegation.

    No communication. No team. No future.
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    Don't worry loan market doesn't close dose it
     
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    Question is how good is Danny at utilising the loan market?


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    frimpong, woods, proschwitz, lawrence
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    Scouser kid and jack hunt
     
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    Tha keeps forgetting "THEE" Brek Shea :)


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    tbf, i reckon both of them will go on to be proper players. we just signed them both when they were a million miles away from full fitness
     
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    can't believe i forgot shea. i thought the list of abject failures looked a little light..
     
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    I was just pointing he's got a 50% strike rate in my opinion with loan signings hunt Scouser and LL
     
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    LL was a purchase. Strange how he was verbally offered a deal then shipped out.


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    Isn't getting people on longer term contracts what they tried to do last year? Conversely it's had the opposite effect as we've had to spend time trying to get rid of people we can't now afford, increasing instability. I do agree with you though, it is the right thing to do...But it's not risk free.
     
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    I think we only signed Jennings on a long contract.


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    Only Jennings on a 3 year. But plenty of others on 2 years, including the ones we now need to ship out.
     
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    2 years isn't a long contract. By the end of your first year the player is in the last year of his contract and if he's done well you get nothing for him GOG being the latest example. We need to be sure on who we recruit them offer them 3 year contracts as Peterborough do and evaluate half way through the contract. Don't think anyone other than Kennedy that we signed on a 2 year contract was a mistake it's the shirt termism of 1 and 2 year contracts that is poor management. If you don't think a player is good enough don't sign them at all.


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    Very, very easy to say that. But there's an element of hit or miss to every transfer and we haven't the money to increase our success rate. Imagine what state we'd be in now if we'd put the team from last year on 3 year contracts.
     
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    We have signed That Kane Hemmings on a 1 year contract, so if he scores plenty of goals before January then he'll be off for peanuts an all!
     
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    The clubs ***** it's run by a bunch of chancres with no clout what so ever, footballs totally different to any other business, and can't be run like a normal run of the mill company because it's not, it need constant speculating to accumulate, if your not prepared to do so you need to step aside, or just close the club down because it's destine to rot away anyway carrying on as we are bring in investment or pack it in all together and put the club and it's fans out of its misery
     
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    Well short termism has failed and got us in a complete mess. Of course all transfers can be hit and miss but you need to appoint the right manager and back their judgement. Peterborough have shown how it should be done. A small club confident in their signings contracts sorted so that they are in charge in the transfer market getting the bestie dibble return on their investment. We are very poor by comparison. We get a pittance for good players has we cannot manage thus area of the club effectively. If we had signed o Grady on a 3 year contract the transfer fee we got would have covered any mistakes rather than barely covering our arses.


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