West Stand "Holes" / Wall

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  1. Gally

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    I've seen mention of the holes in the West Stand. I'm not sure this came across properly in the fan engagement forum or the notes, but the holes are created by the club to look underneath the structure. They have taken up the floor in the North West and South West ends. This is at the request of the council. It has always been assumed that the West Stand is based on a concrete structure. As part of the safety certificate the council stipulated a list of recommendations and instructions. One of these was to formally document that there is indeed a concrete base.
    It was found however there is a large void and a further fire risk assessment is to be completed. This wont be completed until some point in November. If there is any remediation required this will obviously take longer.
    Big holes and paying customers probably aren't going to work very well.

    Another recommendation is in regard to the perimeter wall, part of which fell in and damaged some of the turnstiles at the South end. The structural assessor is unable to come out until November and again, if there is remediation work required this would then have to be planned.
     
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    Sorry I still think it's rubbish. If this perimeter wall is possibly unsafe then why has the club allowed members of the public to be put at risk? This is a serious health and safety issue as it could fall on a dog walker at any minute.

    On the issue of holes am I reading this right? There are holes because the club deliberately made them? Any reason that they can't unmake them?
     
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    Large black holes. Voids. This is getting more like the X Files every day.
     
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    Glory holes
     
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    Just out of interest.... could you elaborate on just how much of the wall fell down and what date this occurred? I noted on the recap vid just how bright red the wall looked down the whole length of it, so it's clearly been painted moderately recently. Seems a very odd thing to have a wall "collapse"... just do that bit, paint the whole thing... then come up with a suggestion it might be unsafe because nobody has checked the rest of it.
     
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    I think they will once the risk assessment is completed assuming no remediation work is required underneath.

    Preumably, the structural assessment is to formalise assessments already carried out with regards its safety otherwise it would also be cordoned off on the Grove Street side.
     
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    are you SD in disguise ?
     
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    Or is it going a bit 'Muse'...

    Our hopes and expectations
    Black holes and revelations
    Our hopes and expectations
    Black holes and revelations
     
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    Simon Davey?
     
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    I think it was sometime before the playoffs but I believe again the council asked for a formal review to document its continued safety.
     
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    So we don't know how much fell down and in what circumstances and when then?
     
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    I saw the new bricks at the game yesterday. Im not really very good at quantifying how big that was from memory though. 8ft wide section maybe more. Not sure. My understanding was it just fell down of its own accord though. I believe it was not long before the playoffs.
     
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    no Simon Davey and myself being good Taffs don't bother with the G**** H**** when we've hundreds of white woolly creatures craving our attention on the Welsh moorlands...... green welly boots and velcro gloves ....happy days!
    (Can't believe I've just typed this.)
     
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    Why was the stand allowed to open for a few games and then closed when nothing had happened (in relation to the wall)?
     
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    Concrete base? Large void?

    After the Bradford fire, did not the powers that be inspect the West Stand and find that it had a concrete base and with NO voids that could be deemed a fire risk, and was given a clean bill of health. Has this possible fire risk void appeared since that inspection? I would have thought that the inspection carried out as a consequence of the Bradford fire would have been very in depth. Can the reg's have changed that much that the report in question is now meaningless?
     
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    ffs lets accept what Gally says -
     
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    Mmmmmm...thank you for that Gally.
    May ask if the councils request was to find these structural specifications and they have ripped up loads of flooring, why would they publicly announce everything was all good in contradiction to the owners just a couple of weeks ago...im very confused.
     
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    Now I am really confused - partly because what @tosh says above makes sense and partly because I dont understand why if there is some condition on the safety certificate requiring further investigations I dont know why the club didnt respond to the Councils claim it was safe with a factual correction - Also why didnt the club initially say they had to close the West Stand due to ongoing fire assesments which will take at least until November ad they would be able to give a further update by latest end of Nov whether Fans would be able to move back or if additional remedial work was needed
    Still doesnt explain the closure of the Lower tier though or are these voids in the Lower tier
     
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    Thats the bogs again.
     
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    If only the club had say had an 18 month period with no one attending it to make as many holes as they wanted and to complete any necessary repairs.

    Again it contradicts the assessment of the Council in terms of safety and, on balance, given the statutory obligations I would assume that they would be pretty stringent.
     
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