What a superb statement....... if only, if only

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    tagli teli New Member

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    Prime Minister John Howard - Australia




    Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

    Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.. Since the terrorist attacks onBali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'

    'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'


    'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'


    'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'


    'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'


    'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,


    'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


    'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
     
  2. Andy Mac

    Andy Mac Well-Known Member

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    Tremendous. Common sense personified. nt
     
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    Brilliant stuff

    From a bunch of immigrants who systematically tortured and abused and stole the land of the native people.
     
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    I Wonder If His Views..........

    played any part in him losing power.
     
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    When you cant get the fact that.............

    John Howard is the EX prime minister of Australia correct, it makes you wonder how accurately the speech was quoted and weather it was taken out of context. Oh, and its a speech he made over 2 years ago, hardly cutting edge stuff.
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    so you disgree with it?
     
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    North Yorks Red Well-Known Member

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    RE: Brilliant stuff

    yes but to be fair we did send a lot of em there in chains so they were hardly the best breeding sock
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    I was talking about the statement.......... i didnt say it was up to date - it was just a point of view ....... interesting how people say lots of stuff but dont say if they agree with it.... do you?
     
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    don't matter who agrees or disagrees with it particularly, as its about a country on the other side of the world. Its never going to apply here where different cultures and values apply. If you can't read between the lines and sus out the general opinion of the posts so far then I aint going to enlighten you, life is not always as black n white as yes or no and youre obviously not playing with a full deck. Hang around a while and oakwell will be around to help you out.
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    Does it matter it is 'half way around the world' ??? - it is only a statement that can 'generally' be applied to er.... us!!!! .... think of any excuse you want to avoid analysing the statement but dont blame it on me not 'reading between the lines'.
     
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    John Howard is a bunch of immigrants?

    </p>

    Ithink you'll find those people are long gone. </p>
     
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    Here we go.

    </p>

    It's hilarious how you people actually believe you also occupy the intellectual high ground.</p>
     
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    He could do with leaving religion out full stop

    I agree with Dawkins on this. Why should religion of any type (and that includes Christianity and Islam) be tiptoed around and not have its flaws pointed out? What makes religious beliefs so special? If someone is staunchly left- or right-wing people would be able to rightly and freely argue with them. So why not religious types?
    I'd be annoyed with Howard (not Brian, obviously. I don't reckon he has any particularly strong opinions on this subject) for blurring the boundary between politics and religion in this way.
     
  14. Gue

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    RE: He could do with leaving religion out full stop

    I never cared for the man much. Particularly after he's plagiarised much of my own material in that speech.
     
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    You're actually very good .............

    I'd pay money to sit and listen to you in a pub
     
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    tagli teli New Member

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    sorry pal, gorra come back to you on this one ......

    you comment on the fact that he's the ex priminister (it was an obvious cut and paste - chill out mate)
    you comment on if the statement was accurately quoted
    you comment on when th espeech was made

    but - you dont comment on the actual content of the statement - why do you find it so uncomfortable ??
     
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    "'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push"

    That's just as well then seeing that Muslims also believe in God, as well as Jews and Christians etc.
     
  18. Gue

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    RE: You're actually very good .............

    I don't do gigs for those who make such banal comments. But I'd buy you a drink while you were there just to show it was nothing personal.
     
  19. Isl

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    But you definitely do gigs then? What sort of material have you got, is it open mike nights? I fancy doing some poetry.
     
  20. Gue

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    What sort of poetry do you do? Epics based on ancient Greek legendary characters or toilet wall limericks?
     

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