What can the 'rebels' do about Corbyn?

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  1. Ors

    Orsen Kaht Guest

    Seems the man is determined to continue despite his unpopularity amongst the team he is meant to be leading. One scenario might look like this.

    Corbyn refuses to resign. Eagle challenges him. Corbyn wins again due to his majority with the rank and file membership. The 172 (and now probably nearer 180) resign the Labour whip en masse. The Tory victor will not bring forward the general election from 2020. Labour becomes the third largest party in the Commons and SNP become HM Opposition. Corbyn is out of the public eye. The unions see that nothing can be achieved by a marginalised party. Either Corbyn resigns and a unity candidate is elected, or Labour splits and a new social democrat/'progressive' alliance is formed.
     
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    Or. Every MP who is ELECTED BY HE PUBLIC get on with the job they have been put in office for. And RESPECT what party members have voted for.

    This is scandalous.

    I don't have a view on corbyn either way but this whole saga is embarrassing and quite frankly something out of a playground.
     
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    Or if they do resign the labour whip in the house they have the balls to resign their seats as well as they were elected in their costituencies as labour MPs. Then put themselves up as whatever their true political feelings are and see if they get elected again ...
     
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    Tony Blair is regarded as a traitor by the people who currently occupy the seats of power in the Labour party. He knew that if Labour was to get elected, it must appeal to the centre ground of British politics. The British voter will not vote for extremists, either on the left of the Labour party or on the right of the Conservative party. If you want to be elected, you must occupy the centre ground, which is what Tony Blair did.

    The Labour party must know this. If I know it, then those with any political aspirations must know it too. So what is their game. What are they trying to achieve, the Labour leaders and the Union leaders who have elected them to power. Do they have any real aspirations, and desire or any wish to form a left of centre government. Looking at the situation from the outside, it seems not. As someone said the other day, it looks like a deliberate attempt by the Socialist Workers Party to take over the Labour party and to drive out anyone with any hopes of forming a government. It looks as though those in charge of policy in the Labour Party will be happy to be permanently in opposition, espousing policies that never have any chance of being enacted. It is all a bit of a mystery as to why this might be though.
     
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    Or to take the party back to its true roots, serving the cause of the working man and woman, not pandering to the banks and lobbying organisations that are causing the demise of this great country
     
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    But what good does taking the party back to its true roots do, if it means that the party is permanently in opposition.

    Having said that, Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have proved what can be achieved by lying through your teeth so there is an alternative way. You simply tell the electorate that you are going to reduce taxes and that you are going to spend, spend, spend and nobody knows that the first part is a lie until you get into government, and taxes actually increase, and so does borrowing and the markets rebel and inflation returns and the Bank of England increases interest rates in response, and the ordinary people are screwed by the party that is supposed to be their own.

    Unfortunately, there is no alternative to grown up government, as Communism throughout the world has now had to accept.
     
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    There is change in the air...another few years of Tory Rule and the public will carry Corbyn and the Labour party with a vast majority into number 10...besides that after todays news the Tory B team will be distancing themselves from anything Blairite...The labour party needs to clear the Tory scum from within its ranks The Tory press and the Tory party are running scared of the Corbyn factor and his effect on the public...For once we have a honest man in parliment mind you i did think he scored an own goal by having his feet in the remain camp although his heart wasnt in it, thats for sure
     
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    Onwards, over the cliff comrades!
     
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    You believe that if it makes you happy. It will never happen. If Corbyn stays then the party will split. You can vote for the socialist worker element. They will lose their deposit all over the country.
     
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    without falling out i could return the very same statement....we can only guess what will happen but theres change in the air
    Once the Tories have done another 2 years in office, if it goes that fa,r the whole of Britain will want them out....with the cuts that they will want to implement....people have had enough of the lies coming out of Whitehall its odds on
     
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    If Theresa May gets to be PM then she might be able to steer us around the difficulties arising from the lunatic decision to leave the EU. That could lead to Labour being out of power for a long, long time, especially if Corbyn somehow remains in charge of the asylum.
     
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    I think you are mistaken in your analysis Orsen. There is a groundswell of opinion, in my view, that various governments have let the common/working/working-class person down over several years (both Labour and Tory). This has been exhibited (again in my view) by people turning to UKIP in desperation, turning to the BNP in desperation and recently, voting to leave the EU, again in desperation. The modern Labour Party devised by Blair is simply a shadow of the Conservatives and many decent Labour people (Not Socialist Workers as another person has suggested) are sick of it. Labour were wiped out in Scotland (before Corbyn remember) because they do not represent working people anymore. Jeremy Corbyn for whatever faults you like to assign to him is trying to re-structure Labour to make it more relevant for massive numbers of people in our country who are being ignored and let down. The coup against him is a despicable attempt to maintain the status quo of what remains of Labour in Westminster and is another sign that, if successful and Corbyn is replaced, the Labour Party is in terminal decline. Labour won't be relevant any more. In a way it's not about Corbyn, it's about the way Labour needs to go in the long-term. The old Tory-light policies are being exposed for what they are - a betrayal of genuine Labour people
     

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