What does Davey have to do to save his job?

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  1. BRF

    BRF Well-Known Member

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    Thirteen games left. Thirty nine points up for grabs (which is as many as we have accumulated all season). Most people seem to think that four wins and a draw will have us safe on 52 points. That being said - with our goal difference being what it is now, 52 points would have relegated us last year.

    This year Charlton look doomed. Norwich maybe too (running out of time). I think 52 should be enough this year.

    Now, if we win our remaining games, we can finish on 78 points - that's promotion form. It's also ridiculous and not going going to happen.

    There is enough scope left in this season for us to string some performances together and finish is a very respectable position - seven wins would take us to the magic sixty point mark and the promised land of midtable (or there abouts). It would also show us five points better off than where we finished last season (and ten points better than where we finished the season before). Personally I'd be over the moon with that.

    There has been a lot of debate about whether Simon Davey is coming to the end of his time here - frustration with his tactics, his selections, and the apparently never ending relegation battle. What does he have to deliver to convince you that he's got the potential to take the club to the next level of being a safe mid-table side, not threatened with relegation next year?

    Here is some the things that matter to me -

    - That we get ourselves safe before the final three games of the season. If we're biting our nails on the last day of the season, I'll be fed up.

    - That we accumulate more points than we did last year.

    - That we show ourselves capable of winning our games at home (or at least, winning most, but certainly not losing)

    - That we don't get stuffed by anyone between now and the end of the year (Norwich away *ahem*)

    I'd be interested to know what people think.

    As far as the Davey in or out debate goes - I'm really on the fence at the moment. For me it could go either way at this point.
     
  2. Mid

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    More points and a higher position than last year. I reckon 16th or higher would be acceptable.
     
  3. Cud

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    The way I see it is...

    we now have all the pieces of the jigsaw, Davey just doesn't know which order they go in. Someone commented on here last week that if Davey didn't turn up and the lads did there normal thing we would have won and I believe that theory would win more games than Davey would win us.

    The biggest fear today was what damage is Fozzy doing? Has he been rushed back? Look what happened to Muller when he was forced to play on!

    All in all a good result against a bogey side, but yes, I'd still bin Davey.
     
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    Championship football next season is acceptable!

    16th place are just pipe dreams!
     
  5. Spa

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    The way I see it is..

    More points or at least the same.

    Anybody on here that thinks the players would do better without a manager probably don't have a bloody clue. :D
     
  6. RichK

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    Year on year progression is the objective from PC. If we are clear of relegation with a few games to go then that will do. We all want more but that is the bare minimum needed to show progression.
     
  7. Cud

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    if the players were left to their own devices

    JCR would play on the wing - FACT!

    (seestars)
     
  8. Wilmersdorfer Winky

    Wilmersdorfer Winky Well-Known Member

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    RE: if the players were left to their own devices

    not true JCR has said he prefers central role. So that fact was infact fiction.
     
  9. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I am sure that 7 wins from the last 13 games will ensure he is given another go

    There is no question we have a much better squad of players than when he took over but my biggest disappointment is that too often we are dreadful to watch. Its so frustrating because the players are capable of entertaining football

    I hope we do acheive safety comfortably this season - if we do Davey should be given another chance - but I hope Patrick and Don explain to him that the fans wont keep coming if we play like we did last week too often
     
  10. Cud

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    Yeah right. nt
     
  11. Spa

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    I'm not so sure.

    I think JCR is playing where HE wants to and the manager thinks he can have more impact on the game given a freer role. </p>

    He's as often (possibly more) been ineffective as an out and out wide player as his current role and has been often marked out of a game. </p>

    Plenty of criticism of him on here in the past for trying to beat the same man twice / failing to deliver crosses. </p>

    Contrary to popular belief on here 4-4-2 is not the be all and end all, nor does it need to (or in fact rarely does) involve out and out attacking wingers.</p>
     
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    JRC had his better games for southend playing inside of the touchline rather than an orthadox wideman
     
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    -56 or 57 points;
    -the suggestion that we know our best team and their best positions within that team;
    -to be a good half-dozen points clear of the bottom three before we go to Plymouth;
    -more consistent performances
    -t'moon on a stick.
     
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    to be honest

    we, as barnsley fans are sounding like those from S6 did a few years ago. It is time that as fans we took a step back looked at the situation the club finds itself in.
    Firstly, we are in a division where we are competing with clubs with a known history, heritage and prestige with a chance of promotion. Barnsley have never been an attractive club and have always offered more in wages compared to larger clubs bidding or the same player in order to say them to our town.
    Unless some person with a bottomless pit takes over BFc never will be.
    THe same is with the manager. What some people are failing to realise is that the club cannot afford a 'billy davies' or an 'alan pardew' managers who cost big wages and want to spend big in the transfer market. Nor do the club have the attraction of say a nottingham forest.
    The club has taken a risk on a manager with ambition and a desire to suceede. He may not have the expirence that we demand nor sign players that the majority of this board want the club to.
    THe club is doing well and progressing, some of the football is naive and poor but some of the football has been of a high quality and some of the results along the way have been pleasing.
    On a final note, This club has been in administration once due to mis spending and was hours away from a repeat of the same due to mis spending having big name managers, staff and players.
     
  15. *Windy

    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    Going on how he's managed it so far....

    </p>

    ...blow half the budget on players he consequently falls out with, start the weekly team list with a striker who couldn't find his arse with both hands, hammer square pegs into round holes, play one of the best wingers in the division at the back of midfield, make a target of the keeper by not benching a sub, arrogantly plough forward, against overwhelming opinion,with any idea so long as it's his own, play a nine-one formation at home against **** sides, regularly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, blame the ref, the players, the weather, the moon being aligned with Mars butnever ever ever his own moronic tactics.</p>

    That should get him another couple of seasons.</p>
     
  16. *Windy

    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    RE: I'm not so sure.

    Tha dunt half talk some ***** thee.
     
  17. bright red

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    or

    Do the double over Sheffield Wednesday. He can stay as long as he wants.

    Did you not enjoy the game today then *Windy?
     
  18. *Windy

    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    You've made very clear your burning obsession with all things Wednesday.

    And your belief that loss against them signals instant dismissal.</p>

    You leave us inno doubt that this is the best season of your life.</p>

    Today's match was one of 46.</p>

    </p>
     
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    So

    The only thing that matters is the league position at the end of the season. In that case you needn't bother going to matches cos how we play or the result of any one game is unimportant. Good excuse.
     
  20. *Windy

    *Windy Banned Idiot

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    A bizarre deduction...

    </p>

    ...even by your standards.</p>
     

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