What if this had been Arthur Scargill

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  1. Dodworth Red

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    I wonder how big an issue would have been made if Arthur Scargill had found himself in this position?

    It deserved 20 seconds on Calendar last night... I wonder if Mr Scargill would have had such little publicity... The question now is If Mr Greatrex will steal this amount of money from the Phoenix Nursing and Residential Home Ltd. How much might he have put on one side for himself from the rest of the mineworkers funds..

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/03/ex-union-leader-neil-greatrex-theft-guilty_n_1400831.html
     
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    PlentyPlenty. He also got a record payout for NIHL. Reward I suppose for being Thatcher's lacky.
     
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    Where's yer f**king Greatrex now......wheres yer f**king, wheres yer f**king.........

    .......where's yer f*king Greatrex now..........where's yer f*king Greatrex now !!!

    Can just hear it now between choruses of Scab Scab Scab !!!

    Get ready for the next Forest Game.
     
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    serve him right if he bumps into a couple of diggers in prison. And why is it always landscaping and frivilous **** like that they all spend it on? Think it would be harder to spot? An insult to the nations intelligence.
     
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    UDM were always a set of liars. Send him down! Scargill feathered his own little nest quite well, but covered his back too.
    Neither deserve too much respect IMHO.
     
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    Correct. Scargill has done very well himself and continues to do so however as far as I know his feathering has been legal. Neil Greatrex deserves to go to prison for his crimes.
     
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    It would certainly have made the headlines in The Daily Mail.The Express ,The Telegraph and the Sun.
     
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    #8 Football Agent X, Apr 4, 2012
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    That Nark We deserves everything coming to him, the UDM Bras Tad :mad:
     
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    thats right mario,,,they've tried everything in the book to pin stuff on scargill since the strike and failed miserably everytime...scargill had my backing 100% in 1984 and would get it now,,,the only thing he got wrong was to under-estimate thatcher,he predicted 20 pits to close,when in fact they shut about 170.....as for greatrex,,well i hope that b a st ard f u k in rots,i cant stand the sight or sound of him,a traitor to the working class....and if he was thick enough to believe thatcher that the notts pits would be safe then its no wonder he's got shafted now for fiddling..
     
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    thatchers friends will make sure he has as little time in klink as poss and a certain degree of comfort,this bloke almost single handedly brought the destruction of our industry to its slaughter.
    as far as scargill is concerned i wouldn't blame him for taking a few to court for the way they have slandered his name especially if he reads this board.
    scargill has done nothing more than the previous gentlemen who held that office.
     
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    Scargill wa a prat of the nenth order. Didn't last down Woolley for more than a day (according to my late mate, Roy Funnell). Why people followed that loudmouth I shall never know.
     
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    yep thats right youll never know,
     
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    look at his track record pre 84 and you'll see why they/we followed him,do yer homework.
     
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    speaking from NO experience whatsoever Xerxes eh....
     
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    speaking from NO experience whatsoever Xerxes eh....
     
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    Dad worked with him at Woolley - said he was a pratt! Scargill was set up like a kipper before the strike - trap set and in he fell in
     
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    I worked at cortonwood,it was us who called the strike...they announced the pit closure on 2/3/84,we ballotted to strike on 4/3 and then went to the num headquaters on monday 5th to ask for support from area,they then went on to ask for support nationally,which we got more or less everywhere except notts and parts of derbyshire...
    Scargill would have looked a much bigger pratt if he had sat back and done nothing,we were on strike to try and save our jobs,industry and communities.....make no mistake if notts had come on strike we would have won,...needless to say we've been in decline round here ever since,,,,and so has notts,even tho' they were told their pits were safe...I wish i'd a tenner for every notts miner i sopke to who wish they'd listened to the rest of us.
    your dad obviously didnt like scargill,so he was probably in the 30% that dint want him elected as president,,,however 70% nationally voted him in....so there was obviously a lot of men who dint think he was a pratt..
    I bet thatcher cant believe her luck that people blame scargill for pit closures when it was her government and mcgregor who butchered the industry
     
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    Nobody liked him at Woolley - my dad's hatred started during the strike when he drove past us in a chauffeur driven Daimler . Hard times eh! We were struggling don't think he was to be honest - why do you think the government had been stock piling the coal before the strike? They were more than prepared for king Arthur. He broke the government in the 70's and he wasnnt going to do it again! Steel industry first - supply dipped - then go for the miners and bring in a well trained hatchet man to do it. The strike accelerated the pit closure program - most pits were unworkable - Woolley lost a brand new million pound seem. I never blamed scargill for the strike - he walked into it though
     
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    Re: What if this had been Arthur ScargillF

    Notts out would have won the strike really? Majority of coal was being imported - on a trip to Cleethorpes we watched 40 coal wagons and 40 police vans escorting them out of the docks - haulage strike would have made a difference
     
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    Re: What if this had been Arthur ScargillF

    read the book 'the enemy within' then draw your own conclusions as to why the government put so much effort into keeping the notts pits open,and it certainly wasnt for their right to work.
    i picketted nearly every day in the strike and never once saw scargill in a chaueffeur driven daimler,the MYTH that went around was that it was a jag....and the coal imports in 84 were nothing near the levels they are now, and the big coal import facillity at immingham was built after the strike,same time time as they built the one near bristol,
    nobody liked him at wooley eh??? why did they elect him as branch delegate then?......
    the strike did not accelerate the pit closure programme,most pits were filling coal straight away,again its another government myth.
    the pits were closed,simply to break the unions,to get rid of any collective force that the masses had,hundreds of people working in the same place doesnt go down well with a tory government,they have to much power and create too big a threat.....the demise of the num has directly had an impact on the whole trade union movement,the days of national strikes more than a day or so long are over,and with it the collective strength of the working class,left to the mercy of the government and capitolism.
     

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