What is patience?

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    I woke up this morning feeling let down and more disappointed than I have for many years watching BFC. Yes, my expectations were higher this season but why shouldn't they be? It got me thinking. We talk about patience, but what does that mean in football today?

    In modern society we expect things now. 20 years ago we waited till 10pm or next morning to hear news. We waited 3 weeks to get a delivery of something and we only had 3 channels of TV.

    Today we watch a film downloaded, have 24/7 information, even fed to us and can get an unusual item delivered Saturday when we order at 5pm on a Friday. An instant society, one which anyone under 25 has been brought up in as the norm.

    Footballs changed too. Its competing with many other things. I would expect that 2 months in, 9 or 10 games, we would know our best side, understand how our competition play and have a squad up for the known challenge. I would certainly expect that from a club with a few quid more than half of the teams in our division. After all looking at the league that's what seems to be the norm for most clubs in all divisions. Players are professionals, the concept of gelling is ok for 2-3 games, but in modern football many decent clubs sort things early.

    So what do we mean by patience? Do we mean half a season, 3 seasons, or what? We are paying top dollar for a result and orientated industry and expect to see that the majority of times. We haven't invested in 10 quid a game knowing we will have success in 12 months. I know we have no right for success and that's not my point. My point is we are competing in a real time, here and now industry. I get that good results extends that level of patience, but don't poor results reduce it? So from December we have seen Danny take us from bottom of the Champ to bottom of the D1. While everyone is developing clubs and teams around us, I'm not seeing progression in any of those two areas other than the young kids. So should I just watch U21s. So how patient should we be in a sport that's clearly about success today, are we out of sync with the industry.
     
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    Patience, for me, is showing a tolerance and understanding that when developing our squad (and it's still in the development stage) there are going to be setbacks along the way. This can engender frustration to everyone with a love for the club, it's not unique just to those holding a particular viewpoint. As much as people demand and insist they have the right to expect instant gratification in so many aspects of our culture today, life has a habit of dealing us a very different hand. I don't think many of us expected to see us in the bottom four before the end of September, irrespective of whether we wanted Danny Wilson as manager, or not. However, when has a time scale been an absolute for showing patience? I haven't the foggiest idea how long it's going to take before the club starts progressing again both on and off the field. Unlike some, I can honestly say I don't have the answers to every question asked.
    I can only speak for myself on this issue, but I still believe we have the right man as our manager and a belief showing patience & tolerance with a developing young squad of players is conducive to the long term progress of our club. Others can and do think differently, which is fair enough. Who am I to tell anyone else what or how to think on these issues? I'm not arrogant enough to think I know best, I can only air my opinion. Just because someone holds an opposing viewpoint doesn't mean they are less knowledgeable, less of a supporter or answerable in any way simply for having the audacity to hold differing beliefs to me. This is also reciprocal, though.
    I'm as angry and frustrated as everyone else with what's happened this month. But if someone says they believe they've been more than patient by waiting until we've played a grand total of nine league games and we're at the end of September before demanding the removal of the manager (or even contemplating it), then their definition of patience and mine diverge somewhat dramatically.
     
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    You should be asking Huddersfield Red that question, he seems to have all the answers

    apparently we have played 39 games this season with this virtually new team.... We have missed out on several "Proper" managers too it would seem. Also you are not allowed a real opinion unless you attend each game, despite having the ability in this modern world to the views on various experts, live commentary, full match replay (Player) and eye witness accounts (other fans). But hey he is the Oracle so who are we to argue.
     
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    Re: You should be asking Huddersfield Red that question, he seems to have all the ans

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