Whats racist here

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  1. Tar

    Tarn_Lad52 New Member

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    I am in all honesty relatively ignorant when it comes to politics mainly due to the fact that I am 15 years old. I along with most people in the country have noticed how increased immigration, integration with other cultures and political correctness has affected the country over recent years.

    These stories you here of such as santa being banned from some shopping centres, people being forced to take down england flags during the world cup and the nursery rhyme baa baa BLACK sheep being chanegd to be more "PC" are enough to outrage many normal intelligent people of any race in this country to be outraged, including myself.

    I personally am not a racist person I have black, white, mixed race and asian friends however I do think Britain as an island does not have the physical capacity or resources to handle the huge amount of imigrants coming to the UK. So there has to be a change.

    The BNP has been dubbed a racist organisation so I took it upon myself to do some research, on their site i found this list of policies.

    http://bnp.org.uk/about-us/policies/

    I cant say I disagree with any of the policies on that site

    So I ask what about them is racist?

    Maybe racist people claim to follow the BNP so that their ignorance has a name?

    Similarly to what terrorists use Islam for


    Opinions please
     
  2. pon

    pontyender Well-Known Member

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    Look up the National Front and see what it says about them. That's what the BNP used to be called before they tried to hoodwink everyone that they are not just a bunch of fascist thugs.
     
  3. kanecat

    kanecat Banned Idiot

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    And that's coming from a 15 year old

    what a sensible and well thought out post. Well done young man

    (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap)

    I'm afraid you won't get an unbaised answer on here
     
  4. imp

    imported_Gally New Member

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    It's fairly simple mate...

    There is a difference between defending British values or citizens and defending the indigenous British people. The former is admirable and necessary and what, one hopes, all political parties are interested in. It doesn't distinguish between different people except along the lines of which country they are citizens of.

    The latter of these is racist because it attempts to divide people along ethnic lines. It claims that, in Britain at least, the citizens of Anglo-Saxon descent are more important than the British citizens of other ethnicities.

    The BNP doesn't seek to secure a future for British culture, but for what they view as the British ethnic people. To divide people along purely racial lines is the very definition of racism. The BNP is racist.
     
  5. Tar

    Tarn_Lad52 New Member

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    All i am saying is from what i've read on their website whoch i am aware is possibly or rather probably biased

    I have seen that they want to protect "britishness" not "whiteness"
     
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    I would be careful about the stories you read mate and choose carefully what you believe. Some extreme pressure group will make the suggestion that santa should be banned, people should take down England flags etc which the BNP, right wing press et al will then recycle as being a real policy to drive you in to their hands.

    As to why they are racist, they do not regard non-white people as being British, even if they have been born in the UK or are British citizens. That is excluding someone on behalf of there race and given they tone down what they say publically then imagine what their real views are
     
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    ark104 New Member

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    yes but they say you can only be British if you're white nt
     
  8. Tar

    Tarn_Lad52 New Member

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    Ah I see

    Well i for one am proud to be british

    and if someone was born here, is law abiding and hard-working I think thats what make someone truly british

    A hardworking doctor of asian orgin for example who saves lives week in week out to me is more "British" than a white person who chooses to be unemployed and scams the benefits system
     
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    I think you are a liar

    You cannot really expect me to believe you are only 15.
     
  10. EastStander

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    Wonder how they'd do this?

    Sounds a bit like what happened in Zimbabwe!

    "We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership."
     
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    Thats a good attitude to have
     
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    RE: Ah I see

    The BNP immigration policy is to "persuade" such British Citizens to "return to their lands of ethnic origin"
     
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    RE: Wonder how they'd do this?

    Aye, but register yer main office in Lichtenstein, thus paying sod all taxes.
     
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    kanecat Banned Idiot

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    Personally i think that if immigration issues were sorted - the floodgates closed. Genuine asylum seekers recognised and the fakers sent back. A stop put to the uncontrollable bandwagon that is the PC Brigade and all that goes with it. The BNP would then be virtually non-existent
     
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    Well, yes.

    And if the government nationalised all industry, raised taxes, banned opposing political parties and rebranded ourselves a 'People's Republic' then the UK Communist Party would probably wither somewhat.
     
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    From that website:

    Utter drivel.

    All political parties lie, what makes you think the BNP are any different?
     
  17. RichK

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    I am in no way racist but feel that the cultures and religions we are trying to mix in the small country just isn't working. My worry is that if the non-British Christians become a large percentage of our population then what is to stop them from creating a political party of their own and start gaining seats, or maybe even get into government. I am sure some of their politics/legislation would be far removed from what we are used to. Our democracy would surely allow that to happen? Like I say I am no racist, I have never judged somebody by the colour of their skin, it means nothing, and I think the BNP have got a long way to go before they are anywhere near a political party. But I do think that our current and future governments need to get a grip on it.
     
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    Did you mean "non-British Christians"?

    As in Polish Catholics for example?
     
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    White minority in many places

    Eg, suburbs of Leicester, Birmingham, North London, West Yorks, Mid Lancashire.

    I have not seen any specialist minority groups springing up there. They may do though if the BNP continues to trick people into thinking they are anything less than a far right fascist organisation.

    My own views probably lie right of centre but not on many of the key BNP policies.

    Makes me laugh that if you asked many people in Barnsley if they would be prepared to vote tory they would scream no, but they lap up the garbage peddled out by the BNP.
     
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    I would class Catholics in with being Christian. Polish have a right to be here through the EU. My point one was about religions that are far removed from our own. I suppose I meant non-British non-Christian. Apologies. In the wider sense it is the culture as much as religion.
     

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