When religious beliefs are unacceptable

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  1. Red

    Red Rag Active Member

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/6049750.stm</p>

    Sorry, but this is great Britain, and British law says these can be provided and pharmacies carry them as stock.</p>

    If your religion precludes you from performing a legal and normally expected part of your job, then you should be deemed unfit for the post and your employment terminated accordingly.</p>

    Disgusting!</p>
     
  2. BRF

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    that's got to be a wind up.
     
  3. Red

    Red Rag Active Member

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    'fraid not mate

    Frighteningly true.</p>

    One step closer to the abyss of no return.</p>
     
  4. Gue

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    Good point.

    The law of the land should be abided by no matter what your religion and if you can't do a job then you shouldn't have the job in the first place. Similar situation to the teacher in Dewsbury; the kids have complained that they aren't learning as her veil is making it hard to communicate; again, she doesn't appear to be doing her job to the best of her ability and even the Muslim council agree that the veil does not have to be worn in front of children.
     
  5. BRF

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    Won't sell the morning after pill in Rotherham?! They'll miss a fortune.

    I suppose they'll make up the money on the clap creams. If they sell those.
     
  6. EastStander

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    Heard of a similar case the other day

    Of a catholic and member of a pro-life group refusing the same, and it going to court.

    In many walks of life you come across decisions of moral conscience within your job, as you say you either have to resign on those grounds or do the job.

    This isn't something unique here either, a quick search shows US, Canadian and Australian pharmacists refusing to supply it without prescription.

    But in this case they were within their rights to do so - "The Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain's code allows a pharmacist to refuse to sell or dispense drugs because of their religious or moral beliefs."

    "The pharmacist, or any other health professional, has a duty to put the patient in touch with another practitioner.

    "In this case the pharmacists put the patient in touch with her local surgery."
     
  7. Zuk

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    Personally I find very few religious beliefs are acceptable

    Superstitious mumbo jumbo. They're all 'kin idiots

    Can't wear a condom (Catholic)

    Can't go to Friday meetings a long way away because you won't get home before sundown (Jewish)

    Can only eat meat that has been savagely butcherd (Muslim)

    The dead shoud be left in the open for their bones to be picked clean (Zoronastrians)

    Cows are sacred and are fee to wander the streets unhindered (Hindus)
     
  8. EastStander

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    Women teachers

    From the Bible:

    "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent."

    Talk about jobs for the boys.
     
  10. Gue

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    Before I clicked the link I thought, "Let me guess.........

    ......******* Muslims.&quot;</p>



    Like EI said, integrate or **** off.</p>
     
  11. Gue

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    Isolated incident then?

    &quot;What muslim threat?&quot;</p>



    For ****'s sake give it up man.</p>



















    .</p>
     
  12. nezbfc

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    Hey Mate!!!, you have missed out on the

    Christians.....

    come on man.... some folk on here are ready to throw "rucksacks" at you for that
     
  13. EastStander

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    So then

    You've not actually read my comments that this is also happening with Catholics as well!
     
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    I like an open-minded debate as much as the next man, but that last comment - "let me guess, ******* muslims" - I find offensive.(N)
     
  15. Gue

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    Soz.

    I should have somehow tried to make the distinction between the pain-in-the-arse muslims and the normal innocent victims of Islam but I was full right up to the top with cider and couldn't be arsed.
     
  16. Gue

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    RE: So then

    &quot;Yes but it was an isolated incident.&quot;</p>

    &quot;No but the press have blown it out of proportion.&quot;</p>

    &quot;Yes but it's not just muslims.&quot;</p>

    &quot;No but it never happened.&quot;</p>



    Change the bloody record.</p>
     
  17. EastStander

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    RE: So then

    But the fact remains that any pharmacist can do this and that many have, it is not a Muslim issue but will be turned into one because people will read the headline and not look further.

    Catholics are refusing to sell it, pro-life groups, it's not just Muslims.

    The person did nothing wrong according to their profession's code of conduct. It can be a moral issue, it can be a religious issue.

    When other people change their record of seeing the word Muslim and automatically jumping up and down in fury without giving much thought to the rest of the story then I might change my record.

    Just in case you missed it before
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4649425.stm
     
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  19. Gue

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    RE: So then

    That one incidence is of no consequence. The fact remains that you can't see any critisism of a muslim without crying one of your four standard responses. It's like you're on some kind of trigger.
     
  20. EastStander

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    RE: So then

    I am referring to this particular incident.

    Stick to the point - you are the one that normally has a go at people for not sticking to the point.

    You picked me up on something where all I said was that I didn't think they should be able to pick and choose what they sell but that it wasn't purely a Muslim issue and that they were entitled to refuse it under their code of conduct. Why doesn't the other report mention that persons religion? Because there is no news in saying a catholic (for example) has refused to sell it.

    I issue those responses because I am trying to add some balance.
     

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