Where should POTY presentations be made..?

On the pitch, prior to last game of the season, for the people in the cheap seats to clap their hands?

Or - At a fancy dinner for the wealthier end of the fan base to rattle their jewellery?

Discuss... :frown:

 

In my garden.

 

In Whitey's man garden.

 

Do you have loungers? And a patio? I want to sit on the patio and have Patrick fan me down whilst he announces the award for player of the year, and the 47 runners up in order.

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I can see both sides.

On the one hand, the average "normal" fan pays a lot of money to watch the team, and votes in the POTY competition, so they should be able to see the winner announced. If you bought a raffle ticket, but then you were told that you weren't allowed to watch the draw unless you paid £72 for a ticket, you'd be a bit miffed. I believe if you vote in the competition you should see the result live.

On the other hand, the average "normal" fan wants his team to buy better players on higher wages, so the team win more matches. "Speculate to accumulate" is a phrase heard often. However, most fans don't want to spend their own money on this, they want other people to spend it. They want it to be spent by "the club", but the club gets money from the fans, who don't want to spend it. Because of this the club has to try and "milk" well-off people by organising events such as the POTY dinner, and make it more exclusive by announcing the POTY on the night.

I used to have a season ticket in the Legends, which cost nearly a grand per season. That money went into the club to spend on players etc. I used to get ridiculed by some fans, including some on here, for belonging to the so-called "prawn sandwich brigade". Why do fans want people to put money into the club, then ridicule and insult them when they do just that? That's why I can see both sides.

 

But how many of the people who pay to attend the POTY dinner do so to fi d out first who has won the trophy? I doubt there is a single one. Everyone who goes does so because the want to rub shoulders with the players, to have a posh meal and have a good evening out.

And to be perfectly honest anyone who is going simply to have their ego massaged and feel that they are special and have a devine right to see who wins before everyone else needs to get their head out of their arses the pompous ****s. As I said, I doubt there is anyone who goes for that though

 

On the pitch every time, we all put money into the club which ever stand or box we sit in. Why should a select 150 just see the presentation.

 

I believe some people WILL go, or pay a bit extra to go, because the Player of the Year will be announced on the night. You may or may not like that, but if they pay their £72 towards Adam Hammill's wages next year maybe it's something we should all put up with.

This fence is digging into my arse, I realise that, but I just can't decide. We need more money to compete, hopefully at a higher level, but we insult, mock and ridicule the people we're trying to get the money from.

 

If even 10 people go because of it is that worth more to the club than the poor PR of upsetting (even slightly) thousands of fans? If just 10 of those fans say '**** it' I'm not going on Saturday now because of it then I wager that instantly the club have made a loss. No real overheads associated with ten people buying a ticket online for Saturday. Extremely high overheads associated with hosting the awards do. I doubt the profit would be more than £25 per person after tax is deducted

 

Was it last year or year before, the dinner was cancelled due to lack of interest? And I'm not buying that this dinner for the 'haves' , helps the club buy and pay better players. I bet it clears no more than 6k tops. if it sells out..

 

And yet the advertising spaces within oakwell sit empty...

Use what you've got available first before you screw your customers over to make the same money

 

The risk of upsetting fans is a compelling argument which I agree with. To clarify, I think the POTY should be announced on the pitch at Oakwell.

However, I don't see anything wrong with the club organising "posh" dinners to make money, and I don't think the well-off people who go to them should be insulted with labels such as "prawn sandwich brigade" if they are putting large sums of money into the club.

As I said before, why do many fans want the club to spend more or other people's money, but not their own? Anyway, off for a curry..........

 

I'm guessing it's probably because the average fan isn't rich and proportionately are already spending g just as much of their disposable income on Barnsley. In fact I'd hazard a guess that for a lot of average fans they are pushing themselves tot he limit financially to watch the reds whereas the richer fans have far more disposable income and don't really feel the drain at all. That'd be why they don't want to spend more of their own money. they can't.

And I have nothing against anyone who chooses to pay extra to go for a nice meal with players or to sit in a box, good for them. But when some of those people start to think that having money somehow entitles them to take things away from everyone else then they will get no sympathy from me when they are labeled as elitist egotistical arsewipes. That's why I don't believe there are many at Oakwell

 

On the pitch before the final home game.

 

On the pitch. Surrounded by temporary bars.

Let's have a mass piss up with 10k fans

I haven't thought that through like. But hey all ideas start out somewhere

 

Even for common ****-kickers like us, the corporate/deeper pocket is a bonus if not vital income stream. Let them have their dinners. But not at the expense of traditional spectacles for the average supporter. I worked in the museum/heritage industry for many years, conservation rather than marketing, and I understood the importance of the higher end of business, but you wouldn't shut down the attractions to the regular punters to appease the affluent and corporate tax off-setters. That'd be barmy and would never happen. It flies in the face of all the buzz spin sloganeering BFC comes out with every week. Shites on the current feel good factor from a great height n'all.

 

On the pitch before kick off of final game.


Not at some do with pretentious folk who probably dont know one BFC player from Adam.

 

No loungers, and no patio anymore because the bodies weren't buried well and the smell and that...

 

On pitch, after game. Called off if folk invade pitch after final whistle.