Bet loads in town as voted BNP, ones I've spoken to have all been eager to get their crosses on that paper.... Cant see it been any different really.... Labour candidates will already be getting pissed now celebrating their win (unfortunately) even before the results are announced, its like taking candy of a bairn with us in Barnsley we all tend to vote for them ffs.... Anyway yeah can **** off i'm not telling thee who i voted for.... (chinny) ....
Is that why labour barely have a majority these days I can only deduce through your comments that you are Tory voter. If so, they're even worse than New labour.
My problem was... there were only three Labour and three Conservative candidates to choose from. The Labour leaflet outlined some points where the Conservative council were poor. The Conservative leaflet said the Labour leaflet was pretty much lies. So I had two parties I'm not interested in, who I also couldn't trust, represented by six geriatrics who hardly strike confidence that they'll represent the younger generations. Marvellous. With the way they were performing, I should have run against them myself. I could have been Councillor Mustang tomorrow!
Now Hold On ! 1. The Tories raped the south yorkshire area especially barnsley and the dearne valley. 2. The lib dems couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery as they'd all be pissed up before they'd started. 3. The BNP are all racist biggots who fear migrant workers as they're all idle gits 4.Independant = Sacked ex other party member 5. Labour = growth since 1997 look around at all the new business' in barnsley since 97, ask your self over the last 11 years are you any worse off? I am a labour or lib dem voter but i'd rather have them than the others any day . YOU'VE GOT TO ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION "COULD YOU TRUST A TORY!"
Now Hold On ! 1. The Tories raped the south yorkshire area especially barnsley and the dearne valley. 2. The lib dems couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery as they'd all be pissed up before they'd started. 3. The BNP are all racist biggots who fear migrant workers as they're all idle gits 4.Independant = Sacked ex other party member 5. Labour = growth since 1997 look around at all the new business' in barnsley since 97, ask your self over the last 11 years are you any worse off? I am a labour or lib dem voter but i'd rather have them than the others any day . YOU'VE GOT TO ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION "COULD YOU TRUST A TORY!"
Yes, I'm worse off Tax tax tax... Increases in oil prices means big increases in tax for the government for petrol. Do they lower other taxes as a result? Do they ****. New stealth taxing all the way, and even some bold moves to abolish the 10p rate so everyone's worse off. I'm on a decent salary but I feel for those who aren't. Real improvements?... Money goes towards government targets - what a waste. For example, in order to meet targets on hospital appointments I've been given appointments where they've just gone over the same information as the previous appointment, because the treatment didn't warrant another appointment at the time. Wasted resources just so that New Labour can pump out some soundbite statistic. Throwing money away... if an embarrassing problem comes along, New Labour announces that it's ok because they're launching an "initiative" for it, to avoid criticism, so they throw money at half-baked buzzword schemes. Don't get me started on government IT projects... the government is so inept it's untrue... they insist on unrealistically low price so systems are simplified accordingly, then when changes to the spec are needed later because there are so many holes, it costs an arm and a leg because the large IT companies charge huge amounts for any changes to initially agreed specs. Employment... I work in IT and the Labour government have in the last 10 years destroyed it. Fast-tracking visas for Indian IT workers to lower industry salaries. Introduced "IR35" law to stop one-man-band contractors operating as limited companies, but refused to consult properly with the industry (although they lied and said they had). 1 year after IR35 came into effect, they still wouldn't confirm who would be subject to the increased tax implications for both contractors and the clients, so many contractors - myself included - went out of business when clients wouldn't take a gamble on their exposure to tax. Afterwards Labour said "mistakes were made". Well thanks for that blameless non-apology. Too little too late. Gordon Brown... at least he's not so adept at weasling his way out of scandals like Blair was. My conclusion: New Labour... still tax & spend, but with a new "we know best so we'll sidestep your concerns with spin" twist. Before anyone says it... no I'm not pro-Conservative, or pro-LibDem, or pro-BNP. I'm disillusioned, but I couldn't abide Labour retaining power.
Excellent Post Management consultant, tick box style, statistic driven tw*ts is my view on this government. 'Initiatives' instead of action and wasting the highest tax income any govt has had.
RE: Yes, I'm worse off And none of that is relevent in a local election. As to the Indian IT workers - I blame the companies on that, wanting a quick fix and not wanting to keep staff. In my experience though it hasn't lowered salaries. IR35 - well a loophole needed closing....doesn't seem to have put people off contracting at our place anyway, we still have plenty.
The current situation is NuLabour's and Blair's legacy. Brown was not prudent as Chancellor as he often spouted. The balance of trade has been getting progressively worse, and by using the Euro system for measuring inflation everyone has been conned into taking ridiculously low pay rises. When Labour came to power in '97, 40% of the laws of this country were European laws, now it's 80%. Devolution for Scotland and Wales? That has wrecked the UK. Was this a Scottish plan in the first instance (Blair, Browne, Brown, Darling, Dewar, Cook, Gorbals Mick etc.)? Taxes are at the highest level in England since Wlson's days. Pensions robbed, gold reserves sold for Euros at a fraction of the current price..... Free uni fees in Scotland, 11 life saving drigs etc. available on the Scottish NHS but not for the English. 0% tax increases on whiskey but annual increases on beer....
Not saying I disagree with many of those points, but they are still national and not local election issues. As to the Whisky/beer thing, I've said the same for ages....they wanted to help the traditional Scottish whisky industry, far enough, but how about helping the traditional British beer industry....freeze tax for small, independent breweries.
"Independant = sacked member of other party" Independant = member of other party who stood up to the bullies. These are the councillers who stood up to those in the labour party who overclaimed on expenses and had work done on their own houses at council payers expense. Some of these were sacked by a regime including a former Barnsley chairman who was obviously socialist to the core! Not only that, the current labour party sacked them with such contempt for the Barnsley electorate that they thought they could simply get straight back in by saying they were "labour" These are the people who stood up for their beliefs rather than the current labour councillers who are a bunch of muppets all held on a short leash by Houghton! And given the fact that Margaret Morgan was responsible for introducing fortnightly bin collections and sanctioned dumping of waste in Wombwell Woods and moving the robbing ******* gypsy horse fair in to a residential area you've got to ask yourself Can you ever trust the con men calling themselves socialists in barnsley council.
Local elections have always taken some account of the national situation, partly because the central government has a large impact on what local government can do (e.g. funding, directives), and partly because they're the only point mid-term when the public can tell the central government that they're not good enough. I'm not saying that it's right - it's decidedly unfair on good councillors who happen to represent the same party as an inept government. But it's just the way it is.
Get your rose tinted specs off man Where are all these new business's? There's no manufacturing industry left in this country including Barnsley. SR Gents, Beatson & Clark, Wombwell Foundry, Van Leeuwen, Slazengers, Mion, Suba Seal to name just a few - all gone and replaced with blocks of flats. All we have left are call centres and retail outlets and even the call centres are shutting down 'cos they're outsourcing cheaper labour in India.We're taxed to ****, have a police force that are only interested in making money out of motorists whilst people daren't walk out alone at night, Wehave the dearest most heavily taxed petrol in the world whilst the oil companies make record profits. The cost of living is rocketing to around 11%, the housing market is the most depressed its been in years,we're home to the dregs of Europe because they can claim benefits as soon as they enter the country. (5 years of continuouswork for qualification in places like Greece) but there doing a fantastic job - my arse.</p>
