Who is responsible for our situation?

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  1. Hud

    Huddersfield Red Well-Known Member

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    The board who have had no vision for 7/8 years, they have finally got what they deserve.
     
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    fired Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I think Site Admin. :)
     
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    I think it's people piping up with peoples personal life as the first post in a thread.
     
  4. Marlon

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    I prefer to look at it as the board have done a marvellous job keeping us in this league with the resources we command.
    Can't do with this Wendy syndrome
     
  5. Jay

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    No one really. In my opinion the board have made mistakes, but who hasn't? I've made plenty of my own.

    The fact remains that we've started each and every one of the last 8 seasons in the Championship with a smaller budget than the majority, if not all, our competitors. I don't believe that money is the be all and end all, but it's a big factor, and to deny that would be naive. To outperform your position in the budget hierarchy you've got to perform very well in all areas involved in running a football club. We've done OK, just keeping our heads above water.

    This season it looks like we're going to fall short. It's not a certainty, we've still a chance, but it looks that way. We can get angry and point the finger in all directions, making ourselves look complete berks in the process, or accept that we just haven't been quite good enough. Not miles off, there's 7 clubs still in danger of relegation and we're part of that group. Not quite good enough isn't a massive failing on anyone's part when the budget you're working with is smaller than the majority of the rest. Operating on that budget year after year has caught up with us.

    Not quite good enough for one league can often leave you as one of the top performers in the league below. We lack quality in this league, but we're not a shambles, we actually look more organised now than we have for much of our time in the Championship. Our away form over the last month is better than it's ever been. We're not going in to administration, a budget has been worked out for next season no matter which league we end up in. If we go down I'll be looking forward to a promotion campaign next season. That's not what I'll be demanding, but I'll be hopeful of one.

    No one is going to tell you what to do, you've every right to stop following Barnsley if that's what you choose, it's your life, your time and your money. But being relegated isn't a crime. It happens to three teams from each division every single year. It doesn't necessarily mean there's been a massive **** up or that heads should roll. There has to be three teams taking up the bottom three places and this season one of those could be us. But clubs get relegated from this division in a much bigger mess than we're in. It may give us a chance to rebuild, put things in place that we haven't been getting right, that Ben Mansford spoke about in his recent Q&A session, and maybe we'll win a good percentage of our football games for the first time in years.
     
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    If we can't compete at this level what's the point in chasing promotion back to it?

    It's all well and good saying the board have done well but "they " have failed to develop any kind of plan beyond just enough being good enough and to improve the financial situation by opening up the ownership to others
     
  7. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    I never said we can't compete. I don't believe that for a second. I said it's difficult, that the budget is a factor, that to be successful when you have a smaller budget you have to perform very well, but I certainly didn't say we can't compete.

    I also said I believe the board have made mistakes, but not an almighty **** up.
     
  8. AthersleyRed

    AthersleyRed Well-Known Member

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    Keith Hill. He singlehandedly divided Barnsley FC and alienated the fans. In my opinion he was the worst manager to ever set foot in Oakwell. What a complete ******. What stings most is that we had a good manager in Robins. Then he left because of the crappy amateur board, jesus christ. I'm wound up.
     
  9. Jos

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    This season I blame Flicker for going for quantity and not quality, we had to give him a chance though. For the past 6 seasons, I blame a lack of fortune. Football always boils down to money these days and we've done well with what we have. Hopefully we'll push to come straight back up next season with a decent plan in place where we spend what we have wisely.


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    No single individual concerned with BFC. On a wider level anyone involved in setting up the Premiershit, anyone who represents the Premieshit.
     
  11. Bre

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    On the evidence of what I saw yesterday an immediate return to the championship doesn't look like it's on. Too much deadwood to clear out and the chances of a rebuilt squad gelling in time to make a serious push for promotion seems to be a longshot. It's not as if we've built up any sort of momentum in trying to avoid relegation.

    I can see Sheffield United pushing on and taking this season's momentum in to next season and there are plenty of teams pushing for this season's play offs in L1 to suggest they'll fancy a crack at an automatic slot next year, That said we have to be pushing for a play off spot if only to give the fanbase some hope otherwise support will gradually drift away. It's for these reasons that we have to stick with Danny, another pre-season laced with uncertainty regarding who's going to be in charge and the mad scramble to try to get players in who'll do a better job than the ones we already have will almost certainly condemn us to mid-table and possibly worse.
     
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    Absolutely spot bloody on.
    The trouble with modern life is that there always has to be someone to blame. The Championship gets a tougher place each season with teams having more and more financial muscle either through parachute payments or outside investment. Until we get similar investment or 20k through the gate each week it's going to be nigh on impossible for us to compete at this level. Just because our history says we've played more seasons in the second tier than any other club does not mean that we have a divine right to be there.
    The onset of Sky some 20 years ago has changed the face of football forever and definitely not for the better. No matter what league we are in though, it's our club and it will always be in our hearts. Sky and the money men cannot take that away from us.
    Relegation doesn't mean that we can never get back to the Championship, of course we can but I think it will take time, maybe a long time. I'm hurting at the moment and will hurt more when the drop is confirmed sometime in the next couple of weeks.
    I'll then enjoy my summer and recharge the batteries to go again in August.
     
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    You can't say that on here
     
  14. jud

    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    I blame that white cat that used to linger round back of west stand!!
     
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    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    Spot on mate....I've barely broke a smile since yesterday teatime but like you say they can't take our club away from us!
     
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    The team we will have if and when we go down will not look anything like what it is now,
    .we will probably have more of our own home bred young players with a mix of around 5 of this squad.
    This with a few select signings and the money from the wages etc of those going out will bode for a rebuild. At least the community will not be depressed every week
     
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    So they keep us up so if we go down this season it's because of them also. The board haven't moved us on. We are just as bad now as we were when we first got in this league. When we see so many teams get promoted to this league and do better than us time and time again it's annoying. Sick of all the rumours we get of the club being sold from time to time too because nobody in their right mind would buy a football club that doesn't fully own their land.
     
  18. Marlon

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    Which club on our level has been promoted to the championship and retained it for the period we have?
    Some have done better or a period before going back down pretty rapidly
     
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    S**t clueless tactics for me.
     
  20. Jos

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    We'll lose a few fans anyway seeing as supporting a league 1 side is too embarrassing for some. Most of the others will get a bit p*ssed off if we aren't pushing for automatic promotion but there's still some decent teams at the top end of the table. I'd expect us to be aiming for a playoff place personally



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