Who's going to take more of the blame?

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  1. Harry Hough

    Harry Hough Well-Known Member

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    Carson or McClaren?
     
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    Order Of Blame

    1. Brian Barwick for appointing someone for his nationality and because he's a yes man.
    2. Scott Carson for his howlers. Nice or Motson made out he made a good save from the header when he knew little about it.
    3. Darren Bent for not even getting a glorious chance on target.
     
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    How can you blame a rookie goalkeeper

    Who shouldnt have been thrown in to a game this vital and with a completely inexperienced defence in front of him
    If the Manager had lost confidence in Robinson (only a tad later than everyone else) he had to play James. Who incidentally is in top form at the moment.

    And it wasnt Carsons fault we were completely rubbish on the outfield - we were lucky to only lose 3-2
     
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    RE: Order Of Blame

    Darren Bent ??
     
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    RE: Order Of Blame

    The central midfield pairing of Gerrard and Lampard for leaving their brains and B*ll*cks in the changing room, Scarecrows or Weebles would have done better.
     
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    RE: How can you blame a rookie goalkeeper

    It was odd how the number two keeper didn't take the place of Robinson as number one.
     
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    Look who you are replying to

    Of course it didnt make sense
     
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    RE: How can you blame a rookie goalkeeper

    When you want a scapegoat, you don't care who it is!!!
     
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    Harsh on both

    Shades of Colgan in Cardiff for the first goal although much improved second half from Carson.

    For me you certainly have to question the bizarre decision process that leads to 4-5-1 + debutant keeper in a game you have to get something from.

    Problem is the England just doesn't offer many options - the old guard who never won owt, rehashing players with a few caps who never quite made it or chancing your arm on the great uncapped. In many a sense McClaren hasn't had that much to do. Unfortunately he has played 3-5-2 and 4-5-1 against Croatia when 4-4-2 might have put us in with a shout. He will fall by those decisions I believe, but fundamentally it leaves us in a terrible position - an underperforming, overpaid team and a soon-to-be vacant position as national manager that no-one wants.

    The blame can fall on neither of these men. To some degree everyone involved could, and should, have done better. But for those who saw Football Focus on Saturday, Slaven Bilic's commentary on the state of the English game were piquingly accurate. We are in turmoil and since no one man is to blame, no one man can possibly turn it around.
     
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