Who's in the wrong?

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  1. LDR

    LDRed Well-Known Member

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    A) Car
    B) Biker
    C) Both

    Just a bit of light discussion for a Sunday afternoon.

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    onlyonesteviecooper Well-Known Member

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    car. wrong lane
     
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    Had many a run in with bikers. But on this one its clearly the car in the wrong.
     
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    The cager in the SUV. Giggling at that

    Car clearly in wrong though I'm a bit intrigued to know where the bike wanted to go too
     
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    Both, biker were gunna undertake
     
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    He'd already undertaken at least one other car earlier in the video
     
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    On this occasion the car.
     
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    Both.

    The bike had already undertaken one car and was about to undertake another. The reason undertaking is against the law is for exactly this reason, it's dangerous. If the bike wanted to get past the car then it should have been in the right hand lane.

    The car was in the wrong lane, but maybe (s)he was unfamiliar with the roads. I've been in the wrong lane when approaching exits in unfamiliar areas and had to perform a similar manoeuvre. You check your mirror, signal and move across if it's safe. In this case it wasn't safe, and it was too late for a signal, but the bike looks like it may have been positioned in the blind spot of the driver. And the car would not have been expecting a vehicle undertaking it as it's against the rules of the road.

    The driver of the car was careless, but the rider on the bike was deliberately breaking the rules of the road and putting himself in to a position of danger.
     
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    Turn it round and ask- Who was in the right?
     
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    I would suggest that the car in the RH lane is at fualt for the near miss. The biker may have undertaken the first car, but if he was leaving at that exit, then he wasn't in the wrong surely. The exit road is a 2 laner and therefore he/she could remain in the lane he/she was in and leave via the outside lane of the exit road. I cannot see how the biker could be accused of undertaking the car that nearly hit him seeing as the biker appeared to be leaving at that exit and that car did not give adequate notice that it also was about to leave at that exit.
     
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    Well they usually are anyway :)
     
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    Seem to remembver a debate on here a while ago where I think it was determined that undertaking is not actually an offence although the police can stop you if they consider it to be dangerous.

    In the clip the car was in the wrong although not helped by the car switching between the lanes.
     
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    Car!
     
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    But who was in the right, car or motor-bike?
     
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    its a feeder lane on a roundabout - not a dual carriageway. I personally wouldnt overtake on the outside across a junction in the car - neymind on the bike though. And the car never even indicated either.
     
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