Why are people wanting Flicker out?

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  1. roy

    royston tyke Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I am gutted about yesterday as they were the easiest 3 points we should have got all season. They set up for a draw and wern't an attacking threat whatsoever. If the sun was out, Butland could have got his deckchair out and supped a few martini's for most of the game.

    Anyway, What are we going to gain by sacking our manager and possibly staff. We are still on a 4 game unbeaten run and we gained our first clean sheet yesterday. Players are starting to gel as the likes of M'Voto, Paddy and Pederson are beginning to find their feet. The league position is a bad one currently but I still have faith in the staff and players. What I'd like to ask people who want Flicker out is "Who is currently out there within our bracket who you think could do a better job?" If people come back and say Big Mick or Danny Wilson then you are seriously deluded. Mick has clearly stated that he wouldn't want to tarnish his legacy here at Oakwell by being a failure as a manager, and Danny wouldn't come back for the same reason. He turned down our so called appoach to manage the blunts after Keith turned us down before eventually agreeing to become our manager.

    What this club has been crying out for is stability throughout, and that's at playing level, managerial level and board level. The club believe it or not is slowly moving in the right direction and sacking the manager now or even in a few weeks would be a bad move in my eyes. I am sure that there are plenty more on here with the same opinion as me, but this board has always been about the positive people being kept quiet on here as you get shot down too much by the negative ones who like to have more of an opinion when the going starts to get tough. Its easy to moan when things are going bad but I also understand that there comes a time when we all agree that enough is enough (Simon Davey) but we are nowhere near like that with the current regime and we need to keep on supporting everyone at the club. The league is still so tight and a run of 7 points from 3 games would see any club shoot up the table.
     
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    The positive people being shot down in the same way that anybody who dares to criticise is? You mean like that? Yes this board is terrible for that.
     
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    6 wins in 30 tends to get people thinking about things
     
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    Because they are f.ucking idiots
     
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    I would also like stability but not with a manager that hasnt had at least a two seasons in the championship where he has shown good man management skills and tactical knowledge, which our manager hasnt shown of at all.
     
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    After almost a year in charge we are 1 place better off than when he started, conceding more, scoring less ,playing worse and looking a even better bet for relegation than ever. Whether the people who want him out are right or wrong remains to be seen but i would say they could have a reasonable point rather than being ******* idiots, unless its aimed at me then i wholeheartedly agree :)
     
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    How can you say we are moving in the right direction ? we are no further up the league than when Davey left us and he did at least give us a few good memories, i cant say that i have too many memories from Robins or Hills era and if staying up on the last day of the season is an acheivment how is that progression from previous years.
     
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    As a club from the playing field to the boardroom I believe that we are moving in the right direction, and will stick with the manager as I still believe he will get us out of this position. My opinion.
     
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    Let's be honest what set of fans who's team had been in the bottom 3 all season with the worst defence in the league wouldn't be contemplating fresher pastures. I want Flitcroft to succeed but I think it's fair to say this season has been massive backwards steps on the pitch where it counts. I wanted the project to succeed and can see its métis but am becoming increasingly less clear that Flitcroft is the man to oversee the project. Central to the project should be youth development but we have gone backwards in this regard. I'm not baying for managerial blood but some sort of change whether in Manager or those supporting him is needed
     
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    If we have better players and a better board yet the performances are no better ? I am not against Flicker it is more a case that i am starting not to care if we win or loose anymore and that stops me from enjoying the games as much.
     
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    We should have beat Ipswich on 2 nd half chances and we should have beat Doncaster easily , things would look better then . I don't think sacking the manager is the answer
     
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    cos they're nuggits :)
     
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    Coulda wouda shouda.

    Wednesday should have had a penalty middles boring could have equalised Hitler's mum could have given him cuddles we can only deal with reality.
     
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    The problem is we didn't collect 3 points against a very poor Doncaster side. we're yet again in big trouble and one of the remedies to this problem is to beat our relegation rivals which we are not doing.We are not good enough and our position in the league backs this fact up.Flicker did a brilliant job to retain our championship status last season but he is way out of his depth this season, a fact which is backed up with strange team selections and tactics.
    The club are trying to reconnect with the community in order to try and boost attendances and for this Mr Mansford has to be applauded but this will all be in vain if on field matters drift as they are.
    My opinion is we need a change of manager. People say we have had too many changes over the last few years and I must say to some extent I agree but the changes resulted in retention of our status in this league which ultimately was the objective of making a change.
    We can stick with Flicker but I'm afraid that we will surrender our championship if we do.
    What will attendances be in league one?
    The board must act now before it's too late
     
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    Im one of the stay away fans who will not go back until every remnant of Keith Hills tenure is gone from Oakwell and that includes Flicker. There are a number of others whom attended games with our group who are of the same opinion. A new manger of more experience would help against this mentality of being "safE2 every season thinking thios is enough for fans.
     
  16. Whi

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    Not suggesting anything here, but I know for a fact, that Danny Wilson would return if asked.

    What people don't seem to realise, is that Danny purposely left us to destroy Wednesday. He succeeded. He then went and gave the Blunts hope, before bringing them down to earth.

    He's a legend.
     
  17. I'm Spartacus

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    No one seems to be offering Danny boy employment...

    Funny that.
     
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    I'm pretty much on the fence on the issue. I was firmly in the no change camp. I don't care if we win or lose if we play to win at a decent tempo but this season we have been pedestrian and one dimensional. Negative tactics and telegraphed substitutions. The manager seems to have alienated and destroyed the confidence of our young players and in turn they play woefully our of form. I think we should suggest a sideways move for David and bring an experienced manager with a decent record of promoting players from the youth ranks to guide him. Wilson would fit this bracket. If Dave didn't want the help I'd be tempted to say well it isn't working as we are so it's either that or go.
     
  19. Whi

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    Strange, not funny.

    His win percentage is frighteningly good.
     
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    Has he even been applying for jobs. Spartacus obviously knows, so has he?
     

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