Why are some people on here so bloody short-sighted?

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  1. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    With no money and no fanbase from last season, Hill has BEGUN to restructure the team, got the Reds into safety, found SOME players who have potential for the future and AT TIMES had the Reds playing fab football. And yet, some people who cant recollect the boredom under Robins and Davey and the automatic fight for relegation till the last week or so of the campaign are having a go at the manager. Unbelievably harsh!! Keith Hill is doing a wonderful job on the resources he has and no doubt he has also reduced the wage bill to compensate for the drop of support and still people berate him. Again, unbelievably harsh. To paraphrase another post from this site I think some of the fans that BFC have are Charlie Caroli impersonators. The players, on the whole, are performing well, will improve by next year (I'm sure of it) and Hill himself recognises the need to further strengthen in certain areas. (oh... and it may have escaped some peoples' notice that Hill was powerless to prevent Butterfield, Vaz Te and Drinkwater disappearing for various reasons). The manager is doing a great job in very difficult financial circumstances in a tough league. Period. Don't give me that handle about Hill making a mistake in not signing Vaz Te up for a three year contract either - the lad was a gamble and Hill at least made a profit on him. If people actually believed in Hill and started to come down to the 'Well instead of slagging the manager off then we would have more clout in trying to entice players like Vaz Te to stay in the first place. Its the fans that are the problem at the moment and not the team. I say again, Hill is doing great. The club is being improved and supporting it with this manager will bear fruit in the long term. Rant over!!
     
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    ryhilltyke Well-Known Member

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    does that include believing in a manager who writes a game off like he did against birmingham. i heard his pre match interview on radio sheffield, and if i'd been a pay on the day fan, i would have turned round and gone home. to actually come out and say the pompey win had made it a free game, and that our mini league game against coventry was more important was disrespectful.
     
  3. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    I couldnt care less what Hill says to be honest, its the perception of what he is doing with the team in the longer term that is more concerning. To focus on one pre-match comment regarding one game is completely irrelevant to the bigger picture. The bigger picture is of gradual improvement and day-to-day managerial comments to that end are immaterial. In any case, had we beaten B'ham I assume you would not be complaining about Hill's comments at all..... Hindsight is a great thing either after we've won or when we've lost. The long-term thing is gradual progression with limited resources. Bear that in mind and get behind the management team
     
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    Long term, bigger picture, building for the future . . . ****ing hate all that **** about football.

    What it basically means is that even though we might be **** now*, in an X amount of years things MIGHT be pretty good. Up until then you keep paying your hard earned cash by the bucket load to watch a standard of football which doesn't live up to what you're paying. "Come and cough yor £30 + travel expenses on us, although we have actually chalked **** on this game before it starts". In what other walk of life could you get away with that wcnk?

    Well I tell you what . . . ********. Give us a shout when the long term is up and the big picture has been developed. Thats if I haven't been run over by a bus by then.

    *I'm not saying Barnsley are ****, just hate the terminology and attitude that if you are critical you are failing to see the big picture. When people are just wanting some enjoyment, entertainment and justification for spending our money on something we love.
     
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    You know what they say about

    masturbation and blindness?

    Say no more.....
     
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    A similar criticism has been made about Arsenal - always buying players who are going to brilliant in the next few years, building a team for the future etc. Eventually you need to deliver now not in some far off land. I think that criticism is valid with Wenger given the time he's been there, however it probably takes 3 years to de-construct and re-construct a team totally in your own image as a manager. Some are lucky they drop on something which doesn't need much changing, or can spend unlimited amount of money. Some re-construct the team and it turns out they didn't know what they were doing. Since our religation from the prem we've had 11 fully appointed managers - thats just over a season a manager. Please point to me a club who's built success on the back of that level of manager "Churn"? Keith Hill needs 3 seasons before we can judge his team, not that he'll get it of course.
     
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    That was a good ploy by Hill I thought. He was taking pressure off the players, allowing them to relax, play football, and have a go. It was an excellent game which I thoroughly enjoyed watching, if that goal hadn't been disallowed, the result could have been very different. All in all I'm extremely pleased I bought a half season ticket, and will be renewing next season, Keith hill has us playing football again,well done say I!
     
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    Correct, that was exactly what he was trying to do against Brum and it nearly worked. They were a very good and well organised side with some exceptional players for this level and for periods of the game we didn't look out of our depth at all.
     
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    'thereev' Banned Idiot

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    i agree....you don't go to the pictures and pay your fee.... to then be told....don't worry, this film is shlte but the next one will be ok!!
     
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    Too much w@nking ?

    ?
     
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    My hope here is that I am not one of thoses referred to.
     
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    dont worry it will be me!!!!!
     
  13. Whi

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    Or me... but thats only down to these Keith Hill endorsed rose-tinted specs
     
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    Exactly. People are deluded. It doesn't matter how much you have paid to watch Barnsley, it doesn't change their circumstances as a club, and in those to expect more at this moment in time is just crazy.
     
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    Yeah, I'd go with excessive masturbation. Gets my vote.
     

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