Why are the fans getting flack?

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  1. madmark62

    madmark62 Well-Known Member

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    We are not the ones that said this side was good enough to compete, we din`t say we would be playing good attacking football, be fitter than the rest, we never claimed to be great .

    We just want what was promised.
    We already knew we had no cash to buy the best player, we knew that we would not get promoted, we knew that the board wanted to make the club self sustaining.

    The club said that Robins had gone because the football being played was not good enough, we were told that Hill was going to make us hard to beat, play good football etc, yet none of this has happened.
    We look a ******* shambles, I have seen kids under 10`s play better passing football..

    WE are not to blame for wanting what we were told was ours.
    The buck stops at Mr Hill and he seems not to accept that .

    Just my opinion though.
     
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    i'd much rather he did his flak spreading on the pitch.he's onto a loser avin a go at fans, we are in effect his employers and as you and others have pointed out he's tripped himself up on the prediction stakes.
    on the other side we are 3 games into a season too early for the level of critisism he's getting despite the two poor home game performances against the two top sides in our div and who has given better teams than us a drubbing.best thing keith can do now is lay low and improve the performances of his players in the forthcoming away games.
     
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    Have you gone senile mate? Have you forgotten Morecambe as well? 3 poor games on the bounce, how can that be the fault of the fans?
    I dont agree with the boos during the play , but it has been well deserved at half time and full time.

    The Barnsley fans want a team that will put up a fight, play with pride, if we lose to a better team then as long as we have given 100% then we will not complain.
    The manager is paid to get the team playing to an acceptable standard, if he thinks the last 3 performances have been acceptable then it is time for him to walk away. Yes I know its only 3 league matches and there are a couple of clubs below us, I DONT CARE ABOUT THEM, I care about BFC ! end of story.
     
  4. Marlon

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    yes av forgotten about morecambe
    yes av forgotten about morecambe n rochdale last year n donny's 5 goals n mk dons all dire performances to boot.yes the performance of the team at home in lge was awful gutless he needs to turn it round and quick. but although i didn't go to forrest i was told they performed ok. as far as what hill says about games n players i don't expect him to say anything else but praise, he can't slate em too early in season especially when its his faith & belief in them convinced them to step up to chmpshp n as av said he shouldn't be drawn in to slanging match wi fans n if they wanna boo he's got to put up with it he's paid enough. but i for now choose to support.
     
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    Agreed 100%, well said!
     
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    the FANS WELL they arent fans they seem to turn and have ago every game.

    might try a game next game. every time he as ago at the team i verbally have ago at him.

    will he be able to take it like the players do from someone who enjoys winding people up? hmmmm we'll see.
     
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    If we are still in the same position after ten games I will start to worry but after three games we must sound like the worst fans in the country.
     
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    too right theres a rochdale fan on forum 2nite saying exactly that.
     
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    Yeah mate just read his post and he is spot on with what he has said.
     
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    just been on their board (dales) jay was on on wednesday spewing bile about all reds fans hating hill n he's worst manager we've ever had (pathetic) following posts were really taking piss out un us. cheers jay .not in my name pal
     
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    Although I don't agree with some of Hills comments this week he's only tell the truth on the bigger picture of what he's taken on.
    Fans find it easy to sit in the stands and shout what they want at the Manager and players but when they get a Manager to stand up to them and give them some back they don't like it.
    Booing is acceptable in my opinion evan during in the game but the rest of negative comments will create the us and them atmosphere don't expect players to run to the crowd when they score when they have being called every name under the sun.
     
  12. Fly

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    Can you not see that it many of the fans were already realistic about the situation?

    The Manager (and the Chronicle / Andrew Lodge) has spent most of the summer whipping up unrealistic expectations.

    If I'm being cynical (I am), you might argue that this was to generate season ticket sales. Now they have got our money, Keith Hill has decided to paint a completely different picture - actually quite a bit worse than what we thought.

    I would have bought a season ticket anyway, but I'm still ANGRY at what seems like a deception.

    When the spectators get a bit of this anger out of their system, I'm hopeful that they will start to get behind the team a bit more.

    I don't particularly agree with the booing, so I'm venting my frustration on here.
     
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    This happens every season at almost every club and theres being no difference this season to last from what I can see
     
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    Fair enough. We'll have to agtree to disagree on this one. :cool:
     
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    Agree.
    In the last ten to fifthteen years I have been all over the country watching barnsley under some utterly inept managers some inept players and some even worse performances. Yet for the majority the fans have always backed the team. However after the injection of positivity and a feel good factor to which a number of people have forked out money on season tickets has seemingly just been a case of good salesman ship.
    The two home games I have just had the misfortune of witnessing were up there with the worst I have ever seen barnsley play. its all well and good saying we got beaten by a better team but how can you say they were better when we didn't even give them a game.
    I can remember well the dark days under Hodges when the team stood up and had a go. Even parkin had his team showing some fight.
    I can cope with losing if they have battled like hell and run their blood to water. What I can't stand is a manager saying the fans negative is bad for the team when it is still more positive than his set up.
    Reading today will not be easy. One of if not the best passing sides in the division with pace to burn down the flanks. The fans who have travelled will be giving them a hundred per cent as they normally do but if the team is as static and clueless as Tuesday it'll be a slaughter.
    Then who is to blame? The fans?
    This period of transition is going to be very bumpy and we all need to play the same tune. But while ever the bass section is out of tune then so will the rest of the orchestra.
     
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    I'd be surprised if it was the BBS Jay, that just doesn't sound like him.
     
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    I agree about it not being Jay and I wouldn`t call it bile either just a fans opinion.
     
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    the performance have been poor but our fans are a disgrace.
    we've a new manager and a new team, fans should get behind them.
    although he's not doing himself any favours, with regards to building a good relationship with the fans, i can understand Hill's frustration with the fans.
     
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    Well said. People pay good money in good faith to watch their team. Fans are entitled to voice their opinion. Without the fans there would be no club. The club as a whole should appreciate their support and accept criticism whether good or bad.
     
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    That is ballox, he came spouting about how we will be competing with the big spender, because he was that good, well he is not so far.
    The fans were behind him, majority still are, but we have been fed a right dollop of plop in the last 3 games. If , as he sasys he was, happy with the performance againt Middlesboro` then he must have eys like Stevie Wonder!!!

    He cannot have it everyway he chooses, either we can compete with the big boys or we cant.
    I think he has just realized that the Championship is a hell of a lot harder than he thought it was.
     

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