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  1. E.I. Addio

    E.I. Addio Well-Known Member

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    -1 x -1 = 1

    Cos I'm f*cked if can figure it out.
     
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    Because...

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    ...1 x -1 = -1.</p>
     
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    Because

    a minus times a minus equals a plus!

    It's the law!


    2 x -1 would be -2

    Therefore -2 x -1 could not also equal -2


    The 2 minus signs cancel each other out.
     
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    E.I. Addio Well-Known Member

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    Mmmmm not quite what I was after.

    I know the maths rules - I was just wondering how they had arrived at it - logically like, with real stuff.
     
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    this explains it clearly enough

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    <font size="+3">Question Corner and Discussion Area </font></p><hr /><h1>Why is the Product of Negative Numbers Positive?</h1>Asked by an anonymous poster on March 18, 1997: <blockquote>I'm helping a 7th grader with things like: a plus times a plus equals a plus, a minus times a plus equals a minus, and a plus times a minus equals a minus. All OK. But when I tell him a minus times a minus equals a plus he says WHY? (sorry about yelling).

    I won't feel bad if you don't answer this. No textbook and nobody has the faintest idea. But just in case you do answer, please remember it's a 7th grader who wants to understand, not to mention yours truly. </p></blockquote>The answer has to do with the fundamental properties of operations on numbers (the notions of &quot;addition&quot;, &quot;subtraction&quot;, &quot;multiplication&quot;, and &quot;division&quot;). Your 7th grader's question is an important and fundamental one (which I am both surprised and sorry that he has not been able to find an answer for yet).

    Each number has an &quot;additive inverse&quot; associated to it (a sort of &quot;opposite&quot; number), which when added to the original number gives zero. This is in fact the reason why the negative numbers were introduced: so that each positive number would have an additive inverse. </p>

    For example, the inverse of 3 is -3, and the inverse of -3 is 3. </p>

    Note that when you take the inverse of an inverse you get the same number back again: &quot;-(-3)&quot; means &quot;the inverse of -3&quot;, which is 3 (because 3 is the number which, when added to -3, gives zero). To put it another way, if you change sign twice, you get back to the original sign. </p>

    Now, any time you change the sign of one of the factors in a product, you change the sign of the product: </p>

    (-something) &times; (something else) is the inverse of (something) &times; (something else), because when you add them (and use the fact that multiplication needs to distribute over addition), you get zero. </p>

    For example, [​IMG] is the inverse of [​IMG], because when you add them and use the distributive law, you get [​IMG]. </p>

    So [​IMG] is the inverse of [​IMG], which is itself (by similar reasoning) the inverse of [​IMG]. </p>

    Therefore, [​IMG] is the inverse of the inverse of 12; in other words, the inverse of [​IMG]; in other words, 12. </p>
     
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    So in short then

    The 2 minus signs cancel each other out.
     
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    well................

    you can think of it like that if it helps
     
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