Why is Wilson the one that 'Deserves time' ?

This is a genuine question because I haven't seen it answered elsewhere in a manner other than 'we have to stick with a manager for once'.

Well, OK. But why do we have to stick with this one?

When we appointed him I was genuinely excited given his first spell with us and his pretty good record since. But it just ain't happening.

Tactics - Ultra negative, turgid, uninspiring, baffling boring mess.

Style of play - Bang it up front and hope for the best, since day 1.

Progression - We're getting steadily worse, I don't actually think we played much worse last night than we did against Oldham and Port Vale. I just think those teams played into our hands by banging it long like us.

Signings - I do think we've signed some decent players (as well as some utter dross)- but then panic signed a few youngsters who aren't improving us short term (except Pearson) and we probably won't sign long term, so why don't we play our own youth players instead ?

Man Management - Like I said I think we do have some decent players but we clearly aren't getting the best out of them at the moment. How is it that Robinson at MK Dons took 1 month to get Jennings flying and we're stuck with...this version. I appreciate that the player is at fault too but I can't help feeling that another manager would have him (and others) tearing up this league, like Robinson did.

I've felt we've been really poor all season in how we've played but I genuinely thought it would get better we'd grow more comfortable as the season went on but we aren't. The work in progress argument doesn't wash with me at all, Chesterfield came up from league 2 last season, they're 5th, Fleetwood came up from league 2 last season, they played us off the park last night, Rochdale blah blah. We're getting outplayed, outfought and regularly beaten by teams who have more difficult circumstances than us so surely that can't be an excuse ?

This isn't as well thought out a post as I'd like it to be and I've rambled a fair bit because it's a spur of the moment need to understand WHY some people think Wilson deserves or has earned more time ?

I'm not trying to give a one sided version of events I just honestly can't see the opposite argument so help me out.

Sorry for the ramble
Cheers.

 

The opposite argument is that if Wilson goes he will be, including caretakers, the 9th sacking in 11 years. Simon Davey is the only one to have had a really good crack at it (2006-2009).

Robinson has had 5 years at MK Dons and when appointed they were a League 1 team and still are so that's not exactly progress in terms some of the people who post on here would define it.

Sooner or later we have to stick with a manager and give him the time and the space to sort things out. Does it have to be Danny - of course not but then again why not? 9 managers in 11 years suggests we've either been unlucky in our recruitment, too hasty to sack the incumbents or just not creating the right atmosphere for them and the players to work in.

 

Why would it not be Wilson that deserves time? Changing managers more often than some people change their underwear during the last decade and a half has done us no good. Why would our next appointment be any better than what we have right now?

The situation would be different if something else within the club changed. For example if we suddenly found ourselves with a new multi-billionaire owner and could spend a lot of money on players, then yes, change might be necessary. But in the current situation I think I'd like to see some stability - it might not bring the results that we want and to be fair it's not even looking that good at the moment, but then again we haven't tried this approach for a while...

 

I think Wilson has just dropped lucky that he was the manager at the time the club started this re-build. He is now a part of the re-build. If we sack him now we will never know if he was/is the right man as we didn't give him long enough. If we give him the time and he turns out to be the wrong man then so be it. Changing managers now will not move us forward at all, simply leave us with another manager that we don't know if is the right man or not and of course will cost us financially by paying Wilson and probably his staff off.

We have to play the percentages at this delicate time and they stack up in Wilsons favour - he knows the league, he knows the players, he recruited the players, 1000 games in management, affinity with the fans, relationship with the board etc etc.

 

Stick with someone, anyone! Please.

SHame the style is crap, Wilson certainly isnt known for kick and rush and general unattractive football. Even Blades said they played good stuff under him. And certainly not something you could level at that promotion winning team.

 

He isn't. I've never called for the head of any manager in the 14 years I've used this BBS. Can't say I was unhappy when Hill got the boot like, but I didn't like him as a person so I don't trust my judgement of him as a manager. That last game was particularly dreadful like, but I didn't ask for him to be sacked. I thought it might be right for Simon Davey to go at the end of the season prior to his sacking, but it was barmy to allow him to spend the transfer budget, take the squad for the whole of pre-season then sack him so few games in to the new season.

So, Wilson isn't the one. He's just another who I think should get more time, because sacking managers isn't what successful clubs do, which we prove time and time and time again, but hardly anyone appears to learn the lesson. It seems even dafter to me when you consider that the majority of the time we're competing against clubs with a much bigger budget, or, as in the season, starting again from scratch with a brand new squad of kids.

I think it's fair to say I disagree with the majority of your evaluation of Wilson's time as manager, but I've argued my point dozens of times, so there's no need for repetition or going through it point by point. My opinion is just about the opposite of yours.

 

Because Wilson once got us promoted you know? Done **** all since like but this guy can do nowt wrong.


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Cos Flicker got sacked.

Its more down to who is holding the chalice at the time rather than personalties.

 

I wanted Robins, Keith and Flicker to be the one deserving time. Only called for one to be sacked on here. The one I like the most, strangely enough, but christ it was bad then. Not saying it was great a year or so ago under Flicker, it was bloody awful (Paddy entertained me though). And it's as bad as it's been in years right now.

I think they'd have sacked Danny by now if they were going to, but should we be beaten badly on Saturday it'll be brave not to pull the trigger.

 

Great post in my opinion, touching on many thoughts I've had since last night. I fully understand and support the notion that we have to stick with a manager soon and allow him to properly build a team. I also think a manager with Danny's experience and apparent know-how is the ideal candidate. But my concern is that he is totally failing to get the best out of what is a very decent League One squad and two thirds through the season, is still seemingly stumbling on different ways of playing hoping one will yield success. I have no problem if Mansford came out and said, 'look, we're keeping Danny no matter what, long term planning' etc, I'd see the sense in such an approach. But what concerns me is the nagging feeling that another manager could be easily doing a whole lot better than Wilson is doing. I see very little evidence of a tangible plan, any discernable consistency in tactics or signs of inspiration in the players at present. That would be a major concern to me if I was thinking of keeping a manager long term.