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  1. Gue

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    just seen the newest member is called Spion Plop, and it reminded me af a question that I always wondered about - why do football grounds have a Spion Kop? it was a battle in the Boer War wasn't it - but whats the relevance?

    .....oh and why is the US flag reversed with the stars in the top right hand corner on the shoulder of US military personnel?

    just wonderin like.
     
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    Its a reflection man, first kit issued to a US Serviceman is a mirror LOL
     
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    Spion Kop was the name of a hill in South Africa fought over in the Boer War. Football grounds had Kops cos at the time they were usually just a mound of earth to stand on - Barnsleys Kop was nothing more than a slag heap.
     
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    <div class="example">Why do American soldiers wear the U.S. flag insignia &quot;backwards&quot; on the right shoulder of their utility uniforms, with the canton (the rectangle with the stars) on an observer's right?

    It's a question that soldiers hear frequently as they travel through civilian airports, or talk to members of other services.

    And it does look &quot;wrong,&quot; because U.S. federal code calls for the canton to always be positioned to the left.

    The soldiers aren't wrong, however, and neither are their tailors, <nobr>Lt. Col.</nobr> Stanley Heath, an Army spokesman, explained in a Friday telephone interview.

    The Army actually has two authorized flag patches, one to be worn on the left shoulder, with the canton facing left, and another &quot;reverse field&quot; patch worn on the right, with the canton facing right.

    The two different orientations are mandated because Army regulations call for the flag &quot;to be worn so that to observers, it looks as if the flag is flying against a breeze,&quot; Heath said.

    What does a stiff wind have to do with this custom?

    In fact, the rule is a nod to the U.S. Army's early history, when wars were fought as a series of carefully choreographed battles — two armies meeting on a field, clashing head-on until one side emerged victorious.

    In those battles, both mounted cavalry and infantry units would always designate one soldier as &quot;standard bearer,&quot; to carry the Colors into the fight.

    As the standard bearer charged, his rapid forward momentum would cause the flag to stream back.

    And since the Stars and Stripes is mounted with the canton closest to the pole, that section would always be forward.

    So if a soldier is charging into the battle, the flag would give the appearance of forward motion. For the right shoulder, the flag only appears &quot;backward.&quot;

    And that's why soldiers wear the flag patches on the right shoulder &quot;backward.&quot; Because retreat in battle, as any soldier will tell you, is not the Army way. </div>
     
  5. Gue

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    ...ahhh I see. Cheers

    wouldn't really apply to the French Army I guess
     
  6. Gue

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    but even when running forward with the flag on one side it would look normal and one backwards.

    so the us army has both flags on their uniform?
     
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    shauny. shauny shaun

    just that.
     

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