Worse player last night..................

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  1. Wat

    Wath Red New Member

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    Brain Howard and he was shocking against Wendy as well, apart from that everyone else played superb just a shame we could not finish a few more chances!

    Just a thought here but how much of the result at Ipswich was down to the fact that BH and JCR (two of the most attacking players in the team) were banned allowing us to play Togwell and McCann who do not offer the same going forward but provode extra defensive optiosn for us?

    Could this be implemented in more away games do you think? Do you think SD would be brave enough to drop BH if his poor form continued?
     
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    Well he did drop him very early in his managerial career, did he not? Look at the stick he got for it too. I'm not sure that he would drop him again, but he has got the balls to do it. I find it hard to criticise any of SD's decisions at present. He knows far more than I do, so who am I to comment. I have full faith in his judgement - and if he decides that BH deserves dropping, then i'll stand by that. I personally wouldn't drop him because I think he's doing a decent job as captain. His recent performances haven't been great, but he is a far better captain than the librarian Reidy ever was.
     
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    I'm not questiong SD at all, I think he is doing an excellent job much better than anyone could have expected.

    However BH form has not been the best recently and there have been other games where I think he has been poor and in all fairness to Reid if he makes a mistake it is highlighted as ten times worse than if BH did (normally cos it leads to a goal) but I thought towards the end of last season he was superb prob the best I have seen him play, BH can do no wrong for some fans cos he has a great goal scroing record which is fair enough as well.

    Just as an alternative in some away games not all it could be an option to play Togwell and McCann for the earlier reasons instead of BH and one of the wingers? This would give the back four much more pretection but as shown at Ispwich we would still ahve options going forward.
     
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    Sorry mate, I weren't saying you were questioning SD, that was from my point of view.

    Some away games I think you could be right, but only the games where we are expected to be under the cosh, maybe Watford away and the like. I don't think we have much creative influence without BH in the side though. Fair enough he hasn't been playing as well over recent games, but we still look a more creative side when he is in. Now maybe sacrifice Ryce for McCann maybe? Im not sure.
     
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    totally agree

    the big away games where we might be under the cosh is where I would play it and I think Ipswich for example were a little surprised by our attacking play on Sat despite not having BH or JCR.

    Although I do not think BH is our most creative player in the team he does get on the end/arrive at the right time in the box which cause alot of problems and socres most of his goals from.

    Also have to mention last nioght listening to 909 on the way home a Wolves fan compared JCR to Ronaldo, high praise indeed!
     
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    Harsh

    I don't think he's played really bad in either game, he's just not had a mindblowing game for a while.

    If you look at his performance last night, he didn't do much wrong and often used the ball well. Definitely need him in the team.
     
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    Compared him to Ronaldo! Blimey. It just shows that when you don't see a player week in week out the sort of opinion you can form of a player from one game! He was excellent though last night I have to admit. If players put the effort in like they did last night I find it hard to be critical.
     
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    Come on people Brian's a good player ok last few games not that great but as per team last night everyone else has raised the bar and i'd sooner see that. Also as commented before, we must have all noticed our passing game coming back together now that desilva has returned.
     
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    I think it's more than harsh

    Just plain wrong. No way was he "shocking". What I particularly like about him is that he is instinctively attack minded and this affects the way we play consistently. Even if he isn't at his brilliant best all the time he's still the player who is most likely to create something.
     
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    Another point

    Davey always plays "more conservatively" away from home (how many times did you see Foster in an advanced position against Wednesday?). I don't think it generally works (refer to results!!).
     
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    ok I take it back he was not "shocking" but

    he was the worse player in the team last night and at wendy. He is a very attack minded player but I think others are more creative than him but he is the most likely to score for us because he gets himself into great positions, even last night he did BUT at times his distrubtion is poor whereas Da Silva is much more accomplished and for me an all round better midfielder whereas BH is simply an attacking midfielder.

    I am not hammering him but if he isn't playing well then it should be noted and not brushed aside because of who it is which tends to be the case because he is a fans favourite.

    His biggest improvement this season has been his set pieces where he does put a great cross in. However this does not mean he is not droppable and I am not he should be dropped now but away from home depending who we are playing it is an option!
     
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    RE: Another point

    Brian Howard was not shocking either last night or at wednesday. At wednesday i thought in patches he was controlling us going forward however not a mindblowing performance. Last night everytime howard had the ball there were 2-3 Wolves players tight on him everytime was clear McCarthy had certain players watching him all night, also think that bringing devaney off was the right decision, granted devaney was causing problems but as soon as toggers came on he man marked eastwood and it gave Howard almost a free role from the left which confused wolves.

    Well done Simon Davey and the super reds brilliant result last night!
     
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    I agree with you Wath

    and Mullers a flapper
     
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    Conservative away?

    and yet Ipswich were surprised (Magilton's word) that we started with 2 up front and took the game to them!
     
  15. Gue

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    YOU ARE NOT REAL.... did you go to the same game a s me.... dunt think so

    Not one player last night deserves owt but praise. Howard had a great game as all of them did... you must have taken an old video of Frankie Howards attempt at silent movies as that was a poor effort....nar bloody gi oer and get behind em..last night was pure magic..."just like watching Brazil" was well earned last night.I finished a shift at 2:30pm and drove like a loony 250 miles to get there....it was worth every dammed mile of traffic jams an roadworks..... oh how its given me sooooooo much hope.
     

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