Would you change your vote?

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  1. Woo

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    Looking at the new manager poll SO'D seems to be the firm favourite amongst fans on here, but would the news of interest in Terry Butcher make anyone change their original decision? I went for Paul Ince originally but wouldn't be too unhappy if we went for Butcher...
     
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    Butcher would be my 3rd choice behind SOD and Owen Coyle, so I wouldn't change my vote but I'd be happy enough with him (and I don't think Coyle is realistic, so he's effectively my 2nd choice).
     
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    Terry Butcher is best name I've heard put forward beyond the obvious front runners.
     
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    I did say O'Driscoll but I'm not sure his policy of tippy tappy is going to be effective, similar to Keith in that way. He might not be as pig headed over team selection so he could be great, not convinced though.

    I'd actually prefer someone to come on, make it simple, get us solid and we could start picking up points, butcher, megson, several candidates fit this bill.

    I'd also perhaps look at Paul Sturrock, he's done magnificently IMO at Southend.
     
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    No

    I voted for Sean O'Driscoll and still believe he'd be the best man for the job. For the life in me, I don't understand why playing attractive, passing football has suddenly become an anathema for getting us out of our current mess, provided it produces the much needed wins. I also said I'd like to see Owen Coyle given the job. Just my opinion. Having said all that, I've not seen a name mentioned yet where I've thought "I don't want him".
     
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    I'd be happy with Butcher - Voted for Coyle and he is still my first choice but I also dont think there is any real chance he would come I would probably prefer Butcher over O'Driscoll and Megson but would be fine with any of those 3
     
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    Yes definitely but it doesn't allow you to change it
     
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    Re: No

    His passing football at Rovers failed to deliver the wins in the end and all the posts on their forums after games were exactly like on here, all possession, barely any shots, footballed teams off the park and lost. Ill get the stats off the pikey board later for his final 60 games, they'll frighten you they're Hill like. That's my worry with S'OD. A bloke on the Pikey forum named Madmick used to always post the stats when they lost, mirror image of our season. But what do l know, its a lottery our next manager, a decision that The Don and invisible man have to get spot on.
     
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    Gordon, I get it

    You don't like O'Driscoll and you don't want him as our next manager. That's fine, it's your opinion, you're entitled to hold and voice it. However, so am I. I believe the strengths O'Driscoll has with regards to the success he's achieved on a limited budget, style of football he promotes (down the road with Donny, at Nottingham Forest & Bournemouth), putting together a squad capable of challenging for promotion at Forest, outweigh the downside of his record at the end of his tenure at Doncaster. If the club goes down the road of an experienced manager being our next appointment. there will be some failures on their CV. Butcher has that with Sunderland, Coventry, Brentford & Motherwell, but it doesn't stop him being a popular suggestion. It depends on everyone's own particular view as to whether they believe the positives a potential candidate brings outweigh the negatives. I've been respectful of other people's opinions and choices to the next appointment and would expect that to be reciprocated with regards to mine.
    The more others tell me I'm wrong in my views of O'Driscoll, the more I want it to be him (me being a stubborn, old git).
     
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    Re: Gordon, I get it

    I don't think Butcher's time at Motherwell can be viewed as an outright failure, as he was working under incredible financial constraints. On the flip side, Inverness is the only job where his tenure can be assessed as a roaring success. Maybe it's just one of those where it's the right man at the right club. He may come to us and be completely rubbish, or he might shore up the defence, get us scoring and save us from relegation. No appointment is a guarantee of anything, good or bad.
     
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    O'Driscoll won't save us from relegation; others might. However in footballing terms I would prefer him even with a couple of seasons in the ale house league.
     
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    Financial constraints can't be used as an excuse for Hill, then they can't for Butcher, either. However, I believe it does play a part so I withdraw Motherwell as a club he failed at. You're correct when saying there's no guarantees with appointments. Which is why I won't have a problem with whoever our next manager will be (the exceptions being Blackwell & Di Canio).
     
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    Part of the appeal of SOD for me is that I see him as the best combination of someone who gives us a chance to stay up but is also capable of getting us out of League One.

    We can't ignore the fact that there's a very significant chance of relegation now, and we have to find a manager who's prepared to attempt miracles now, but in all likelihood who's real task will be to get us promoted again. Some of the names bandied around, such as Billy Davies, aren't one's who I see relishing the second part if the first one fails, and we can't afford a short-term appointment now and then more turmoil in the summer.

    The task for this season isn't impossible, but it is unlikely, and the next manager's success won't be purely judged on whether or not we stay up this season.
     
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    Part of the appeal of SOD for me is that I see him as the best combination of someone who gives us a chance to stay up but is also capable of getting us out of League One.

    We can't ignore the fact that there's a very significant chance of relegation now, and we have to find a manager who's prepared to attempt miracles now, but in all likelihood who's real task will be to get us promoted again. Some of the names bandied around, such as Billy Davies, aren't one's who I see relishing the second part if the first one fails, and we can't afford a short-term appointment now and then more turmoil in the summer.

    The task for this season isn't impossible, but it is unlikely, and the next manager's success won't be purely judged on whether or not we stay up this season.
     
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    Now added the ability to change your vote,

    where it says you have already voted, click unvote and then revote for your new choice

    cheers
     
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    Yes changed mine from O'Driscoll to Uwe Rosler. Really, really hope we can attract him.
     
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    Tin helmet at the ready. I would bring in Billy Davies on a fixed-term contract until the end of the season. He is not the full-time answer, as he has a wonderful record of falling out with those in authority, especially if they say they won't back his transfer requests. He is a spiky sort of guy, knows the division inside-out and has good contacts to bring in some decent loanees who will battle for him. I would be asking him to keep Flicker as his number two. For a fixed term, he might just jump, but he is not the long-term solution, as we would not have the resources he would be seeking to back him in the transfer market. I believe he would be best 'quick-fix' to get us out of the mire. Best hope then would be that we manage to sell the club and new owners are able to bring in their own management team in the summer. Dream on and wait for the flak!!!! Main reason this is unlikely to happen - he is reportedly interested in the Blackburn job, so, giving Venky's speed of operation, he could still be waiting this time next year!
     

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