Disloyal fans - shame on you1

Why are there messages on this site suggesting Barnsley fans were somehow responsible for the trouble with Millwall fans at Wembley

Do these posters - not have any sense of club loyalty?

Barnsley fans were well behaved and not responsible for any trouble!

 

Is this a wind up?

 

It's super Tyke he loves to blame our own take no notice

 

You're having a laugh right? If I was on that video footage standing behind the line of stewards (Barnsley end) giving it the big one like some of our fans were, I wouldn't have needed to quit my job, I'd have been out on my ear before the day was out.

 

I didn't see one Barnsley fan run approx. 100 metres to run at the Millwall family enclosure.Have you thought that if the so called Barnsley hooligans ran there could have been a lot more trouble.I don't condone any form of violence especially at football games but the lads who stood there ground prevented Millwall yobs from getting through the divide and bought some time until the police arrived.The only ones who deserve all the criticism are the Millwall cowards who should be named and shamed and banned from every ground in football for life.

 

Well if all employers were like yours JD, there'd be a lot of people unemployed as that sort of goading takes place at every match every week!!

I was in block 501 with my two young sons, and the Millwall fans were at it as soon as Fletcher scored. Barnsley fans didn't do much wrong in my opinion, although it would have been better if they had remained seated throughout. They didn't attempt to get past the stewards or walk (run) halfway round the stadium to get there.

 

I have an aunt like you. She's a school teacher and thinks she's better than everyone else as well.

 

Did anyone else spot the girl/woman (Millwall fan) punching and kicking in the video of the trouble? She wasn't at the top - more like halfway down.

Not being judgemental or sexist here.

 

Previous time BFC at Wembley, lovely fan friendly day out. Millwall - aggro.

You just have to ask yourself what is the common denominator in all this.

 

Is that true though? The stewards were the ones holding them back, not Barnsley fans. There was a divide between the stewards and our fans so I'm not sure how our fans were protecting anyone? People are making it out like we were standing arm in arm with the stewards bravely holding people back but that's not what the video shows. It shows fans shouting and making 'come on' gestures to the Millwall fans safe behind a load of stewards. If they'd have sat down and ignored them (or moved along until the area could be made safe if objects were being thrown) then I'd have felt a lot safer if I was up there.

 

Sat down and ignored them? Are you real? If there hadn't been the threat of getting punched back, they would have been through those stewards like a knife through butter. There isn't a set of supporters in the entire football league that would have reacted any differently. A lot would have reacted worse.

 

I think that if the Reds fans had moved away from the Millwall fans, the Millwall fans would have given chase. Can't prove that would have happened though!

However, as you may have seen from the footage, we could not go very far before encountering another layer of black netting covering seats. How dangerous was that, as it was stopping (or making it difficult) us getting further away.

 

Sorry JD, but you're being a bit naive here. There's a difference between aggression and self defence. And at no point do you see anyone on the Reds side trying to cross the cordon. You might have moved along and that's fair enough, so would have I. But generally, human nature just isn't like that, never has been. There were responsive gestures from a few BFC, but I'm not going to sell them out when it was clearly Millwall being the aggressor.

 

Yes, the whole thing wasn't thought out very well was it?

 

Agreed. Millwall fans were a total disgrace but some on here will steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the slightest iota of fault form our side whether it be in this incident or any other. And anyone who cares to call me disloyal for having two eyes in my head and an open mind can go right ahead.

 

I'm just not convinced that standing safe behind a load of stewards shouting 'come on' is self defence. People helping others escape over the netting - yes that was protecting our own, the guy who hit the Millwall fan who had made it over to our end - possibly protecting our own (although I think he was hitting him back as he had got him first, not purely to stop him from reaching women and children), if people had been forming a cordon to stop Millwall fans pushing through like the stewards did - yes, that would be protecting our own and giving them time to reach safety. Standing and shouting abuse which probably did nothing but encourage them and distract the stewards (who then also had to keep an eye on our fans just in case)? I don't think that was protecting anyone to be honest.

 

That was the guy who was doing as you suggested and walking away from it. He got hit from behind while doing that.

 

I actually think he's one of the better posters on here but he does have a tendancy to blame our own fans. I remember us apparently being in the wrong at Chesterfield on the first day according to him.


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But that wasn't the dividing line on the video,
The Millwall fans had run towards the Barnsley fans jumping over the netting.
The dividing line as designated by Wembley stadium was two blocks further along.the reds fans hadn't moved they were where they had been put in the first place .

I think you are getting a bit confused thinking that's where the Millwall fans had been put and the reds fans were goading but that is not the case.