Wow! £38 pay on the day Cat A*.....

easy . i buy a 5 match pass. and then 3 weeks before any given game i have 3 days to book a ticket in priority order. if ive not booked and the game sells out tough luck. if theres still tickets available up to match day i can still book. no drama really. £5 games for £110 , more expensive than a season ticket , cheaper than match day tickets.

to counter cherry picking big games though you could only book 2 cat A or B within your 5 matches.

 

No you're not getting it. They don't have to do anything differently, other than take one of your five vouchers from you, instead of cash or card, when you book a ticket for a game. If you don't get sorted and book a ticket for a game that might be a sellout, then that's your loss.



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Works for me.

 

I'll give it 3 days before there's a "Club Statement" on the official site.

 

Short term profiteering off away fans at the expense of building the casual support of home fans and basically helping to price out the next generation of fans.

 

Disgraceful BFC. I've a season ticket so not affected but I'm inclined to take it back and do something else on a Saturday instead of it isn't sorted out. Don't want our community club becoming a closed shop for home fans and a rip off for travelling support

 

The club mole seems to be on the BBS 24/7 these days. I hope she's paid well.

 

Or it could just be, that's what Championship prices are?

I expect we're among the cheapest in the division (just looked and Burton seem to be £24 seating, £20 standing). And do we think the club should charge the same, even less than some are asking for, for a division higher, when transfer targets are more expensive, wages are higher and we'll have higher policing and stewarding costs?

 

It wasn't less than £20 last season. It cost up to £27

And besides, very few matches will be £38. The majority will cost a similar amount to last season by the looks of it - categories B-D are the same or better than last season, in a higher league

 

Indeed. And lets knock £2 off the prices, if people can't help themselves and buy in advance (to within hours of the kick off), they really don't have much room for complaint at all.

 

The team isn't good enough!

They want to get some money spent!

Cryne wants to get his hand in his pocket!

Me? Make a contribution? Would not have wanted to go up had I known.


This is going to make me very unpopular, but here goes anyway. It cost a lot of money to compete in the Championship. When we came down, we had the 4th lowest budget, so all that we could expect, at best, was to be around the foot of the league. Were the fans happy with that situation. No they were not and gates gradually dwindled as a result. And what did the missing thousands want. They wanted the club to spend money that is did not have. So the club is relegated and Patrick Cryne puts his hand in his pocket once more to save the club from Administration. Is that how you want it to be. Is that how a football club should be run in the modern world. Someone other than the fans puts his hand in his pocket in order to finance it. The fan are happy when the club wins. They are delighted when the club is promoted. They look forward to playing in a higher division, watching better players produce a higher standard of football, but when they are asked to pay something towards financing the improvements, it is no thank-you.

It is not as if the club has not provided alternatives. They have frozen season ticket prices and provided extended credit as a way of paying for them. I am sure that there are spreadsheets galore showing how many games a fan needs to attend in order to make it advantageous to purchase a season ticket rather than pay on the day, and I am sure that it is not that many. And yet some fans will be attending so few matches that even buying a season ticket will not be advantageous for them. And these same fans expect me to be interested that the club can no longer rely upon their pitiful contribution to its costs, either at the old price or the new.

Football clubs do not survive based upon the number of fans through the gates. They survive upon the financial contribution of those fans. I would hope that spreadsheets have been prepared on the basis of the proposed ticket prices. Furthermore, I hope assumptions have been made about how many casual fans will be converted to season ticket holders, how many will withdraw their support and how many will pay up anyway. I hope that the assumptions show a higher net revenue, so that the club is better off even before all other considerations are taken into account.

I have been a regular home attender for over 50 years, and I do so via the purchase of a season ticket. If I had to make financial sacrifices in order to pay for that ticket, I would do. However, I do not smoke, I do not drink and I do not bet, so there is no need for further financial sacrifices. There are few things more important to me than the success of my football team, and I thought that all fans thought that way. This thread has been an eye opener. Individuals who think enough of the team to spend and inordinate amount of time on here clocking up literally thousands of posts, are prepared to turn their back on the club because they cannot be bothered to find out what the cheapest way to attend games is, for them. People who were prepared to pay over the odds to be at Wembley, even though the club would profit to only a limited degree, are prepared to turn their backs on the club rather than pay money directly to it. Did you really think that we could compete in the Championship with no additional resources.

So much for that Wembley feeling!

 

I'm starting to wish that I hadn't bought a season ticket now as I don't think I really want to be a part of this. All the feel good factor that the club generated last season and the community feels (especially towards the end) has all gone away. I get that they want people to buy season tickets but they don't seem to get that not everyone can (work, money etc.) or indeed wants to. I imagine theyre's loads of people who don't like football so much that they want to go to Oakwell almost every week (sometimes twice in a week) but they wouldn't mind seeing a few matches. If they are one of those people they are unlikely to want to spend £38 for a game when they are not massive fans in the first place. Once they see that once and think 'nah it's too expensive' they are unlikely to check if the prices is cheaper the next week or whenever, they'll just forget all about bothering and write it off.

 

In 100% agreement.

 

And what about £23 for a game? We don't even know if any games will be A* category yet? So let's not fear monger and make that stick in peoples minds as the possible cost.

£23 for D, £25 for C if you get off your bum and book up to a few hours in advance.

 

I work most Saturdays 80 miles from Barnsley. If I have a really easy day I can just about get to the game. I never know if it's going to be an easy day in advance so it's a question of pot luck and pay on the day. At £38 there's no way I'm doing that. In fact anything over £28 is frankly scandalous.

 

So many things wrong with this post I'll address them a bit at a time.

I would genuinely rather us be in a league one and football be affordable for all. I know I'll be in the minority there (you can use me for one of your reports). I have never, ever asked for the club to spend extra money to get different players and I never will.

I think that most casual supporters will withdraw their support and potential new casual supports (who may one day become season ticket holders like me) will never bother attending at all.

This is extremely condescending. No, not everyone thinks the football club is the most important thing in their lives. They may have researched the cheapest way they can attend and found that it is £36 which all the reseach in the world is not going to make it affordable for them. There are plenty of people who hven't spent an inordinate amount of time on here clocking up posts because they are not that interested in BFC - yet! Yet being the key word. Not everyone is born instantly a massive fan, some need to be enticed... £38 is not enticing to anyone. It's all very well and good having people who have been attending solidly for 50 years but no offence, you're not going to be here to do that forever, we need new supporters too. A good proportion of Wembley visitors would have gone as a one off. In regards to people going to Wembley, people generally don't mind spending more money as a one off - something you don't expect to pay for again for years and years, if ever. Also, I can't remember but I'm pretty certain that my tickets were cheaper for both of those matches than some of our home games will be this season.

Indeed. All that good feeling just thrown away in order to fleece away fans.

 

I'm sure this will be raised at the Q&A on Thursday.

 

I sincerely hope it is B66

£36 or £38 for a football match is well out of order no matter who is involved. 20 is plenty.

 

True. As someone who's accused the club of not thinking outside the box, I've just done the same.

 

When away fans attend in high numbers, it means that our policing and stewarding costs increase more than proportionately. We also have to pay the away club for acting as agent in selling the tickets. We would make far more from selling those tickets to home fans. But we are not allowed to charge less to home fans than away fans, even if that means making next to nothing out of away fans. So the alternative is, charge £20 for everybody and lose money on the away fans or give the home fans plenty of ways that they can avoid paying the full price, principally by buying season tickets, and also introduce offers during the season that will not breach the pricing rules of the FL, or up the prices to away fans and the few home fans who are too bolshie to react to the attempts that the club has made to mitigate their costs.

If the football club is not important to you, then why are you bothering spending time debating issues relating to it. Of course it is important to the people who post on here. My post is aimed at trying to get people to associate the money that they are prepared to spend with the quality of football they watch, the quality of player on their team and the number of times that they go home happy because we have won. I wrote loads of stuff during the run up to promotion saying that I did not think that we were ready for it. Most people disagreed with me because they thought that any opportunity should be grasped as there might not be another chance. But the inevitable conclusion of promotion is that a higher budget is needed in order to compete at the higher level, to buy and pay the wages of better players. It is right that if a product is improved, the supplier can charge a premium. But the club has not put all its prices up. It has held many at the level that applied for the previous year, but it has put prices up selectively. It has done that for several reasons, the main one being the need to make money out of away fans. But there are still ways that home fans can avoid the increase. They can buy a season ticket for example. Even if they will use it for only half the games. it will still work out cheaper. That is why I say, work out what is the cheapest way for you to attend games. I try very hard not to appear condescending, and I would hope that if you met me in person, you would not find me so, but sometimes I feel compelled to say things how I see them, and this is one of those times. I am not saying that I am a better fan than anyone, but I am saying that you measure the things that you do/own by the things that you gave up to do/own them. If supporting your club is not more important than doing the other thing, then do the other thing but do not make out that you did not have any choice in the matter, as many are doing.