The next Head Coach....

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  1. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    Is very likely to take us down

    How many games in L1 to look like he’s mounting a promotion challenge before a change needs to be made?

    I’m saying 10. **** em
     
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    Just to check that I'm reading that right. Are you saying a new manager should get 25 matches maximum including this **** show of a season to prove himself or be sacked?
     
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    Yes. No more loyalty, no more faith. I you’re not looking like delivering, clear off.
     
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    15 extra for me if he is from barnsley.
     
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    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    No. No extra. Not that that ever influenced my view on him.

    Unless it Mick’s. Which it won’t be
     
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    I'm only jesting. I would love mick but like you say not going to happen. Whoever takes over needs to be given abit of time. Wilson took us down and then was given untill February and we never looked like promotion contenders and alot thought that was too early.
     
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    No time. Deliver or go.
     
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    What if the said person keeps us up but then next season we get off to a bad start and after 10 games we are 3rd bottom?
     
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    You might enjoy being a Leeds supporter then.
     
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    Out
     
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    If he keeps us up he will be in a better position Squad Building wise and will have had a full Pre-Season to get the team together so maybe ten games is long enough. Saying that we have to look at those ten have been against and base the decision on that. If we leave it to the beginning of November that leaves us a rough timetable of November to make an appointment, December for the new man to assess the squad and identify players he wants and move for them in January.
     
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    We have plenty of games to get out of bottom 3. If we go down, the new manager gets replaced. If it were my decision, the new manager would be on a contract to the end of the season. Don't care who it is. Then if we do stay up, it's a 15 match review period each season.
     
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    This is whats wrong with society today. I want it. And I want it NOW. Pathetic.
     
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    It’s nowt to do with that. It’s to do with how giving him time when we’ve been dreadful has been thrown in our faces.

    No patience. **** em. They’d leave at the first opportunity anyway. The only blind faith I’ll show now is buying my season ticket.
     
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    respect your opinion mate, but we've just given the last two managers support, trust, patience & loyalty that doesn't exist in football today. both have survived runs that would have ended in the sack with any other club. and both have jumped ship at the first chance, putting their own ambitions first. the latter taking the backroom staff with him and leaving us completely in the $hit.

    for me, it's not about being a want it now society. it's about taking the emotion out of decision making and judging players and managers professionally, on their performance. nothing else.
     
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    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    Bang.*******.On

    **** em
     
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    Love it Redstar
     
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    I understand its an emotive time but in both instances didn't we end up with our reputation as a club enhanced, significant compensation from another club, and in the case of Johnson a team on a fantastic run which then continued under the next manager? Stability and patience over the last few years has definitely benefited us more than the trigger happy short termism that had preceded it
     
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    Fair enough but its a distance from that to 'give em 10 games'
     
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    it's going to be a polarising view, no doubt. however i don't think it's possible to have a worse example of trigger happy short termism, than signing a new contract on the friday and asking to leave on the monday. all i'm doing here, is applying the same clinical approach to decision making. i'm actually taking the emotion out of it...although granted, it was a hugely emotive response that triggered my total change of stance.

    i think it's perfectly reasonable to expect our new manager to keep us up. if he doesn't, he hasn't met those expectations and he goes. we then take logical checkpoints during each season, to make a similar assessment. at each of those checkpoints, same applies. if they're not meeting what's expected, they go. no more room for sentiment or loyalty. they're paid to do a job.

    admittedly the one bit that's probably missing in order for this to make sense, is that we need a proper football man, to identify the players. the spreadsheet alone will not work. everyone is doing it now, so it's really not giving us competitive advantage any more. we don't have anyone on the board who i would call a proper football man.

    i don't even care who the next man is. it's up to the board to identify the right man, and it's up to the manager to get the results.
     
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