Another Angle on McGeehan's "Stamp"

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Not ideal - but nothing to be afraid of either - its still a strong team.

I'm sure if you compared this team to a Sunderland/Luton/Portsmouth team with three of their first teamers out it would be just as strong.

 

No sign of a response from player on ground, teammates or bench. Was a free-kick awarded btw?

 

Surely it is Cameron s decision whether to contest the charge?

 

Surely if he stamped on him, it would have hurt. At least a bit. Their player didnt flinch, which suggests it was not a stamp.

 

Message from the FA, "move along now, nothing to see here" I would imagine but I fear not.

 

If that's a punishable offence we might as well pack in

 

If Mcgeehan does get a ban then that's what we will have to go with for next 3 games.

Other players given an opportunity to stake a claim.

Just have to roll.our sleeves up.and get on with it.

 

Only one person knows if he meant to do it, that's mcgeehan. on that video he is always looking at the ball and it looks like a accident.

 

One question .
Why didn't the fourth official see it as you can see him in the background a few yards away ?

 

Glad you posted that. I thought the same myself when I rewatched the game.

There as every chance that the lad moved his leg as McGeehan landed.

For me it's not a clear stamp, and I think that's a useful angle to help our case.

 

I've watched it from a few angles including that one and I've got no idea if it's deliberate of just a guy jumping and landing on someone's leg because they moved it.

Surely we had to appeal it though because you can't ban someone because they MIGHT have intended something, the fa have to be sure that it was intentional and unless they're psychic they can't. Not from the videos alone

 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/KHpH6uKdGfH5VQd98

Here is another angle and you can see the reaction of everyone around and how McGeehan shakes hands with him afterwards.

 

I can't say for sure whether he meant it. No idea how FA do either.

 

If he gets banned for that it's ridiculous.

 

It's consistent with all the other videos I've seen and doesn't prove intent. The angle in this video does make it look more accidental than the clip I saw from Sky.

 

I thought he stamped on him. Having seen that I now don't think he did. His foot lands on him, but he appears to ensure he doesn't put any weight through that leg.

We're all biased to some degree and we can't help it I suppose. But I try to be impartial. In many games this season I think we've had the rub of the green a far as refereeing decisions go. I think far more has gone for us than against us. I also think McGeehan is loopy and makes some very silly sliding challenges. But that, I don't think he means it.

 

Having seen the two angles you have posted surely he can't get banned for that

 

There are two factors. There is reasonable doubt (yes I know we are talking the FA here and not the Legal system) but you cannot convict unless it is beyond reasonable doubt.
However, the main thing for me is the position and view, plus the reaction, of the referee and linesman, both of whom were in close proximity to the event. The referee was looking directly at the tackle and saw no reason to take any action.
I would find it highly suspicious if the FA intervened and took retrospective action which really should only happen if it occurred 'off the ball' OR where the referee had been unsighted and may not have seen it through a crowd of players or was a long way away.
Since when did the FA start overriding a referee's decision post match (when he has made a judgement rather than not seen something). We are entering into dangerous territory there if that is happening. If the FA can decide to take action for a refereeing error rather than an omission then teams should be able to follow suit and that opens a whole can of worms.
EDIT Just a thought but given the above, if a referee decides to award a yellow card is it not in the rules that the FA cannot take further action. Therefore by the same action, how can they change a decision for a no booking to a punishment where the referee has to have seen the incident. That seems illogical.

 

the southend player does a worse tackle on dougle ,than cam

 

If there had been any intent or violent conduct the southend manager and bench who were literally a couple of yards away would have been of the bench like lightning but as you can see nobody reacts