Prorogue and Parliment

Good point re the party conferences, but if an election is to happen these will be needed to formulate policies in the democratic parties.

Giving back control to our elected parliament was surely the point of Brexit. If a party doesn't command a majority (even with a confidence & supply agreement with the DUP), then they cannot control the house. An election is going to happen very soon, but dealing with the Brexit issue is surely the priority. I'm pretty sure any extension is going to only be given by the EU with an election / referendum in the offing. If the Tories & Brexit Party win such an election, one assumes they can go ahead with their "no deal" plans. I hope all the Tory doners shorting the pound make a massive loss if an extension is granted, as the pound will no doubt rise. Couldn't happen to nicer people.

 

Yellowhammer. I didn't realise towns and cities were able to talk.

There were many suggestions from political commentators that MP's were seeking to carry on sitting through conference season. But you'll believe what you want to anyway.

 

Think I'm still thinking a hung parliament for an election. Maybe a tiny majority again for conservatives.

 

No vote or bill was put to parliament to that effect. They had no intention of not going to conferences and closing parliament for a full month, but you'll believe what you want to anyway.

A suggestion from a political commentator is just pure speculation. 4 extra days though and you would have though the world was ending.. Political games nothing else, I'm not suggesting the PM is not playing the same game by the way.. Whole HOC is a shambles..

 

Clearly you don't understand how it works in terms of political journalists and how MPs and advisers feed them information. But it wouldn't matter even if you did.

It's not 4 extra days, its 5 weeks. 5 weeks of select committees unable to sit, 5 weeks of the Lords unable to sit. 4 days is just the test group soundbite fed to people who want to believe anything that is probrexit.

The PM is playing a much worse game and Cummings worse still. One that impacts lives.

But anyway, leavers gonna leave, remainers gonna remain. The only thing that will tip the balance is time and death.

 

I can't see any party having an outright majority. The first past the post system has fallen down badly & seats in a new parliament are hard to predict. Brexit / Cons will make gains in some areas & SNP will wipe out the Conservatives in Scotland & expect Lib Dems to take 50-60 seats. Some independent Tories may also split the Tory vote in about 10 seats. It is very much in the balance.

 

Just another lie.

 

That was how it all started but the lines became blurred with new labour who adopted policies many thought right wing. Eg introducing university tuition fees and not reversing any of thatchers union legislation. Blair saying we (the labour party) should be comfortable about mixing with the rich. It's a short leap from that to mandelson holidaying on Oleg derapaskas yacht a few months before giving his aluminium company a sweetheart deal when he was EU trade commissioner.

 

I agree with all what you have posted mate.

I was also taken in Blair’s initial spin and all the Cool Britannia stuff at the time, but the reality was, in time that they were Tories in red ties.

The return to the left, to some feels wrong but it’s actually historical labour and imho should be welcomed. But it’s not always as easy to win from that position.

 

I always maintained along with others on here that he was a watered down tory.

 

I think your last sentence highlights the paradox. No doubt Blair did what it took to win. I can't see Corbyn winning. The press are against him and some of the things he does himself don't help. Throw in the loss of the labour seats in Scotland to the SNP and a rise in a "populist" vote in areas such as ours, the future looks bleak for Labour.