A Message for Labour Brexiteers

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  1. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    Influenced and not forced or directed. The EU let's not forget didn't give us the Poll Tax, austerity, Iraq war etc. Instead we've actually come along way in the past 40 years. Our own government have held us back. We've also not gone to war with European countries since WW2 which is a bonus!
     
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    Why raise wages when youve 10 folk fighting for 3 shifts?
     
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    £30bn worth of austerity was not influenced by the EU. An £850bn bail out of the banks was not the decision of the EU. Between 2009 and 2013 alone the cost to every UK family of austerity was approx £3,500. This was not EU policy. Cuts to the NHS killed an estimated 120k people between 2010 and 2017. That was not EU policy. Dont get me wrong, I dont have much time for most of the EU, but it's simply wrong to say that what it did was responsible for or could not have been mitigated by any government willing to do so.
     
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    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    Exactly the problem, therefore treat folk like **** cos that'll help build a community.
     
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    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    You mean it would have been wiser not to cut the living daylights out of everything, but instead to invest in people and the future to create jobs?

    Now, if only there was a party that wanted to do that *strokes chin*
     
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    Open borders labour?
     
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    Thats as bad as being a scab.
     
  8. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    Hardly open borders, EU nationals having free movement. National government for decades failed to spend on required infrastructure, which in turn creates jobs and community.

    Immigration is one size fits all stick to fight ant argument with. I've worked in immigration enforcement for 17 years, we've had points system for 10 years. We don't have a problem with immigration. 99.9% of people who come to the UK abide by our laws.
     
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    Did you not see thier plans at the latest conference
     
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    Disgusting rhetoric. You should be ashamed. Name calling is one of the reasons that politics is where it is right now.
     
  11. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    Yep, sensible approach, Britain benefits from good migration. Folk like Trump and austerity have polluted the water to such a degree folk can't have a proper conversation about it.

    Technically I should love Brexit, I'd have job security for life. But I voted to remain, I don't like everything about the EU but the benefits we get outnumber the negatives. I was a turkey voting for Christmas but stand by my decision.

    Humanitarian and illegal migration are usually a direct result of failed foreign policy, war, famine etc. That's an international issue not a purely EU matter.
     
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    Not ashamed of calling out Tory Scum , and which side of politics is doing most name calling ?
     
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    Personally I'd rather see a points system or at least a contractual agreement of employment before moving.

    That said I refer you to my previous comment, that the 'open borders' (not really) wouldn't matter if successive governments had invested in people and public services rather than just letting them rot.

    Politically it appears to have been a genius move, because not only did they shaft everyone with austerity but they also get the same people to back Brexit.

    Couldn't make it up.
     
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    Doesn’t make you any better then does it? You need to take a look at yourself.
     
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    I’m better than Tory Scum . I care about other people less fortunate , end of
     
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    We’ve record employment.
    There’s no evidence to suggest that an oversupply of labour has suppressed wages, it’s down to rampant capitalism supported by a lack of workers rights.
    The free market brought immigrants here because there’s loads of jobs, when the economy tanked, immigration dropped, when we leave the EU then the xenophobic will get their own way because the immigrants won’t stay where there’s no work. It won’t help the rest of us though, there’ll be no jobs for anyone.
     
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    As bad as a scab in my book if you ever vote tory
     
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    Can't disagree with a word of what you said, other than to point out that it was Chamberlain who announced we were at war with Germany. Churchill did not become PM until 1940 after the Norway Crisis.
     
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    Haha of course.

    #HistoryFail
     
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