Adam Hammill

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  1. Coe

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    I reckon you're on your own on this DB.
     
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    No. His post seems accurate to me.
     
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    I think he lead well when he first came. Oldest in squad unless nyatanga is and he put an arm round the young ens and gave em confidence to play.

    It's great to see hourihane stepping up to the plate and becoming a leader and not to belittle it but it only really happened upon hamills arrival.

    Mawson flourished and its great to see which happened when the arm band was taken away and some of the pressure was lifted.

    Hourihane has lifted his game to a new level too, all positive stuff.


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    After a disastrous autumn. the home crowd needed someone to get behind, someone to believe in, someone to be inspired by. We all remembered Adam from the first time. We remembered his goals, we remembered his trickery and we remembered his pace. He gave us hope. Hope that he could turn around our season. Hope that he would make going to Oakwell fun again. Hope that he still had it.

    Many posters will cite the improvement in our form as a justification for all those hopes and as proof that he is still our saviour. This is where I am going to be very unpopular. I think that most posters are caught up in their own hype. Do not get me wrong, Adam Hammill would be in my team, every week. I am just not sure that he deserves the lion's share of praise for the turnaround. You see, I watch him and I see moments of brilliance. But I also see that they are offset with as many moments of utter dross. I watch as he gets past the last defender and ruins his good work with a bad pass or a misdirected cross. Teams have started to double mark him, and because he plays in his own world, it ruins his effectiveness. Rather than drawing the defenders to him, and then releasing the ball to a team-mate in space, he elects more often than not to take on both defenders. You see, he is not part of the team. He plays his own game. He plays with his head down. He does not do enough when the team is without the ball.

    Barnsley without Hammill are a better balanced outfit, which is why we have continued to win when he has been out of the team. Long, Mawson, Hourihane, Watkins and Winnall were just as important as Hammill in turning around our season and I am very reluctant to hand out praise for one and not for all. It is not 4-4-2 that came to save us, it was Lee Johnson who saw what changes were needed in Connor Hourhane's game that would allow him to become a player who could play in a 4 man midfield, when I believed that it could never happen. In the process Hourihane has become the complete midfield player. A player who does not just score spectacular goals, but whose position is right whether the team is attacking or defending. There are those who will never find room in their hearts to credit Lee Johnson for this change, but I know what I think.

    Adam Hammill is no longer a 22 year old with the world at his feet. He has had a bad time in the higher leagues and was never able to properly establish there. His game still has its problems, most of which were there when he left us the first time. I do not see these problems being fixed now that he is 28 years of age, and the edge has gone off his pace. He may look for one last pay day in the Championship, but if he is wise, he will see his limitations and throw his lot in with us, for better or for worse, but unfortunately, not for richer.
     
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    Excellent post Red Rain

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    Tell u what it's great to be in a position where we are debating whether hamill should come straight back into the team with his undoubted talent at this level.
    It's great to seem to have some strength in depth and is a credit to every other player who has been involved in this fantastic run and of course hecky

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    I haven't read past this part yet and I feel I need to reply to it. Adam Hammill is very much a flair player, we will all agree to that but no-one can say he doesn't do his fair share of 'dirty work'. I sit in the east stand upper and the amount of times I have seen him back in the corner flag helping out Aidy White or giving away a free kick by trying to win it back because he came from behind is a lot more than some may think.

    I fully understand what you are getting at with your post as a whole (up to where I have read currently) and I agree the other players deserve a lot more credit but running with the ball, taking people on, twisting and turning does take a hell of a lot out of you at a high-ish level like ours. The way he contributes when attacking and the pieces of magic he conjures up, he could be forgiven by a lot inside Oakwell for not racing back sometimes as it's tiring and sometimes, yeah he doesn't. But he helps out more than what you have given him credit for old mate.

    Just read to the end of your post and in general I agree with it, a lot more deserve higher praise but Hammill whichever way you slice it, is the difference at this level and a fit Adam Hammill, for me anyway, goes straight back into our first eleven. As you so rightly said teams double up on him and even if sometimes his decision making isn't the best it is League One and we have to put up with that but the very fact they use two players to concentrate on him means he is the dogs proverbials. If he doesn't get picked then I will be behind Heckingbottom but I personally would play him every second I could.
     
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    He will move to the championship, not just doubling, trebling his salary but increasing by perhaps 10 X

    Can't blame the lad.
     
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    Having read that, I really don't think you understand how wingers work.
     
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    IMO your being very naive and unrealistic tbh
     
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    I think some of you have missed the whole point about Hammills influence on our revival. Even when he has a poor game, he has scared the opposition to death before the game has begun.

    Having a potential match winner in the ranks means that when clubs do their homework they tend to go with, if you stop Hammill you stop Barnsley. They then double up on him, which has meant for the first time in a while we have the opportunity to have freedom in other areas of the field which has helped Hourihane and Isgrove massively.

    You've only got to think that the teams we're up against aren't the athletes you get in higher leagues, so opponents are stuck between a rock and a hard place, if they don't double up on him then he's got the potential to skin any isolated Right back in this league, try to keep him quiet and the opponents leave space elsewhere and also lose attacking threat the other way.

    Its a great weapon to have and anyone downplaying Hammills influence needs their head read.
     
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    I think your desire to ignite debate has got the better of you.

    The consensus seems to be the arrival of Hammill has been a catalyst for us. On and off the pitch imho Nobody believes we are a one man team. Results and performances blatantly demonstrate that. Does he add to our team ? Of course he does. But we aren't lost without him.
     
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    You've summed up my feelings on this subject perfectly.
     
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    you what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,no player in the squad expressed themselves till he came, he is the outlet everyone looks for to hold the ball up on the left, giving players time to get in the box, marley Watkin using skills Adam taught him on the training ground , quote from Roberts , Adam as been in the premiership, he is the level we want to get to, goal v Millwall when we were looking like only getting a point down to him, goal v York on his first game to get us through JPT,assist at home v Fleetwood when it looked like we were never going to score , I could go on and on ,Adam is a fecking legend

    as for all this we haven't missed him bla bla bla , Hamill is first on team sheet everyweek ,he busts a gut to get back and defend ,no one mentions that and these moments of utter dross, when did they happen , because I have not seen many ,think if you dislike a player enough you see what you want and as for being double marked, well that's good for us means space elsewhere on the pitch
     
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    Put a bob on me.
     
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    If you say so.
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    How could you type that with Extremely Northerns willy in your mouth?

    God Skills Kev. :)
     
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    'God' skills???
     
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    **** me I can't even get that right. 'Good Skills Kev, Good Skills'
     

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