Ambitions for the club

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  1. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

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    That was my hope. Those hopes have been dashed a little bit today.
     
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    Surely for that to happen we would have to be in the promised land were the money is at moment all I see is the club running itself to keep afloat.
     
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    churtonred Well-Known Member

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    I think we're bringing in a decent quality of player. How decent only time will tell.
    The contracts being signed are now long ones but we don't know if there's release clauses been built in to tempt them into signing them.
    It's all in the air. Same old same old.
    The only alternative those complaining have is to find the club a billionaire sugar daddy.
    And before anybody quotes Burnley and Bournemouth they're both going to be back down with us inside five years when they lose the war of financial attrition, possibly with Bolton sized problems.
     
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    I bet Bolton fans wish they were us and probably alot of others.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    I bet Juventus fans don't.
     
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    Agree, but you don't have to be completely frivolous or forever shop in the bargain bucket.

    There can be something inbetween.

    The worry for me in keep doing what we're doing is we might eventually get to a point where we can aim a bit higher when identifying players, but how many fans will have got fed up between now and then?
     
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    Forgive me if I'm wrong but are the owners not selling players they did not fetch to the club, And the one's that they are bringing in are on longer contracts with options to increase for another year.
    Does this not show that they have along term plan for the club. And it's not just making money, It's called making a team that will be together for years.
     
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    Fair point mate.
     
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    At the moment it doesn’t look like that to me hope your right but selling your assets will always balance the books
     
  10. YTB

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    The stars? It's a saying, mate.

    In other words, we aim for something far away.

    I would suggest that us being a second tier club is about where we should be, all things told.

    But the aim is to be better, no?
     
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    They should be aiming at keeping Stendel even though his defence has disappeared before his eyes.
     
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    A run of the mill mid table Championship club. We managed it during and after the strike when we were probably the poorest town in the UK we can do it now. A club connected to and rooted in own community. That has a strong local identity and projects and reflects the best of us. Basically us during the majority of the John Dennis era.
     
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    When I first started following Barnsley the dream was to play in what was then the first division. The Hunter side came a home defeat to Norwich away from getting there in 81/82. That apart, it remained a dream until it became reality for one solitary season. Achieved in an era where there was a smaller financial gap in the second division than there is now in the Championship. It felt like a miracle then, even tougher to do it now.

    My ambition hasn't changed but I think if we are to ever be able to realise the dream again, it'll either be down to quite a bit of luck, or slow and steady progress over many years. Perhaps my ambition is reigned in with a bit of acceptance of what I see as the harsh reality of modern football at this level, a gradual killing off of genuine competition with the odd exception every now and again.

    Football is always a great unknown, especially at the start of each new season. Businessmen build stability and success over many years, years which can often be painful and frustrating, but they'll always look long term.

    Losing quality players will always make progress more difficult, but I can only put faith in our coaching staff to get "success" with the new recruits. Some players have committed to us for a bit longer so I don't think the club aren't trying to secure these players and build a team.

    I honestly don't want to see us bankrolled (which in itself doesn't guarantee anything), and I guess that I'd like to see us properly competitive and established in the Championship for 4 or 5 successive seasons, ironically like Brentford have done. That in itself brings in revenue that can be used to lay foundations, and please investors. But back in the 80s and early 90s, "mid table mediocrity" resulted in low crowds and a sense of apathy. How patient are we likely to be if we could achieve that over the next few seasons?

    COYR
     
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    To Quote a quaint Barnsley saying

    "We are having our pants pulled down"

    We are selling our best players who proved not good enough at championship level at that time
    people say with more experience they could and will be but your clutching at straws with that line of thinking.
    we keep the lesser ones, presumably because nobody wants them
    replace them with not gems or players who look good on paper or " exciting prospects " because they don't look any of those
    But totally unknown quantities who will probably never go beyond the level we got them from
    there's a reason players are unknown or playing at a certain level, its because they belong there.

    will they improve enough from that level to make a profit on them, well that's a higher probability
    where does it get us ? when they go onto sell that player and invest 25 % of that fee and buy another unknown player

    Mr Cryne said he adopted this strategy to survive some people believe that others don't reading here.
    Red Rain went through the accounts and said even compared to Mr Cryne the new owners are penny pinching.

    Why are they here ?
    Have they come here from all across the globe just so they can keep the club afloat ?
    what a strange but admirable thing to do

    Some people like fairy stories and prefer to live in La La land and they are here to make Oakwell the center of the universe and make a push on the premier league ,work with Barnsley council to rebuild Barnsley.

    i can just hear the opening orchestra playing now

    Exciting Times ?
    Not for me.
     
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    If we not replacing them how are we able to keep selling them?
     
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    Houriane plymouth,mawson wycombe,winnal scunthorpe,scowen,roberts,watkins etc .These were very good bargain bucket signings.Hopefully we can keep doing it and have more success
     
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    I agree, all good players
     
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    Aim for the stars and maybe you'll reach the sky.
     
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  19. YTB

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    We'll be on Sky twice this season. Let's stick to aiming for the stars.
     
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