Anyone seen the chaos at

Straw,,,,, clutch,,,, and repeat

 

When the likes of @noksucow think that Gove might have been on the remain side I'm not sure anything like this is going to have an effect. It's willful ignorance at this point, and you just have to let them get on with it.

 

It's been 7 days hasnt it? During a national lockdown. Give it 12 months and we'll see the full implications.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-scotland-fishing-exclusive-idUSKBN29D0UB

Over 90% of fishermen voted to leave.

 

Well it would be nice if we all left Brexit for a year to see how it all beds down.

At the moment the movement of people and goods are affected by both covid and Brexit, and it's impossible to weigh up which is having the greatest effect.

There was always going to be turbulence for a while. A year from now is a far better time to assess things.

 

Amen brother

 

Covid has existed for almost a year. Brexit for a week. There is enough evidence there to suggest which is having the greater impact.

@noksucow refuses to even try to explain why our suppliers have been able to deliver goods on time (with occasional one day delays which has always been the case) for the best part of a year whilst dealing with covid but I have now seen 150 tonnes of goods delayed at ports.

 

Nevertheless there is not the same chaos presently prevailing that we had before Christmas.

I'm not interested in getting into who is right or wrong about the disruption to the movement of goods at the moment. It's obvious that with the changes that have occurred, in the short term there would be troubles.

Give it a year.

 

I agree that it's obvious there would be troubles. It's such a huge change there was always going to be troubles. I think it's just a bit thick to claim that those troubles are nowt to do with brexit and are actually just covid problems that have taken 10 months to appear and suddenly did at brexit time.

 

Although you are getting into it. And the pre-Christmas chaos was largely European firms setting pre-alteration cutoff dates before Jan 1st, to allow for bureaucracy to completed in time, hence a rush of orders and lack of supply/congestion.

 

I agree. I think we will be in a worse state due to Brexit in twelve months and long term. But a year is a good barometer to assess things. It's hard to assess anything right now.

 

I've made a suggestion.

 

Anyone would indeed be foolish to come to any conclusions at this stage. Many tend however to have their own existing prejudices and so will shoehorn the inevitable disruption (or lack of it) into their ideological straightjacket.

Leaving it for a while would be the sensible thing to do.

 

Many would. Others such as myself would have first hand experience of the situation

 

I've just previously shoe horned someone into a jacket. No time needed to decide how shockingly bad that is.

 

Look just calm down everybody. Of course there are some issues because of Brexit, but you're only looking at the negative.
I have no doubt that the OP and the leavers will be back any minute now to inform us of all the positives

I think it was noksucow that said earlier that you're view will probably depend on how you voted, so obviously they'll be folk along very soon to tell us about all the positives.

 

A growing number of retailers and courier firms are suspending or cutting back deliveries into the EU as companies grapple with new border controls as well as import taxes.

On Friday DPD, the international delivery giant, said it was “pausing” its road service from the UK into Europe, including the Republic of Ireland. Separately, Marks & Spencer said it was concerned that a third of the products in its Irish food halls, including Percy Pig sweets, would now be subject to import tariffs. Such taxes could spell higher prices for shoppers.

DPD said new border procedures, including additional customs paperwork, needed for parcels destined for Europe were putting extra pressure on turnaround and transit times.

The company said it was returning one-fifth of parcels to the sender because they had incorrect or incomplete data attached. It also blamed delays and congestion at UK ports for its decision, as well as more rigid requirements for Channel crossings. The firm said it hoped to restart the service on Wednesday.

'Project fear'.

 

That's because of covid silly

 

9 of going to shipping out on monday the first this year, see how it all works with the new paperwork ,